@stevenbodzin @pvonhellermannn @DarkOptimism I am in zone 8b/9 east coast North America. We have unusual weather patterns. It can be in the 70’s (21C+) for a week in Dec/jan/Feb, then drop into the 40’s/30’s(night) (4C-) for another. It alternates dramatically like this throughout the winter. I’m cultivating seeds of local wild fruit/nut plants to grow bc I think our plants are a little smarter about when winter actually ends.