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Some quotes from the text:

"The goal is always to optimize the fulfillment of needs while keeping decisions and data as local as possible."

"Or in complex system lingo: The constraints are slightly different, which might result in the systems sliding into different attractor states."

"We can make use of the ideas of cybernetics if and when they seem useful to solve a problem, but they don't force us to act or think in a given way."

I wrote down some reflections on the complex anarchism symposium I attended in May and the talk I gave there about anarcho-communist economics. The text covers discussions around the question of which concepts and tools should be discarded as too central or too dominant in the anarchist context and which structures and tools are required to adequately handle complex systems in a non-hierarchical way.

transform-social.org/en/texts/

transform-social.orgTransform Social | Reflections on Complexity and CentralityThis is a reflection on the experiences from and feedback received at the complex anarchism symposium. It covers discussions around the question of which concepts and tools should be discarded as too central or too dominant in the anarchist context and which structures and tools are required to adequately handle complex systems in a non-hierarchical way.
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@Di4na @bert_hubert

Ahh, roger, thank you! That's a really useful explanation; yes, I see why slapOS in and of itself won't cut the mustard. Gosh, I can see why we need this capability from a strategic/geopolitical point of view. Indeed not just Europe; any competent government should want to make sure feedback-loops were set up so that they did not inadvertently lose "digital sovereignty" in such a manner here illustrated.

I did this about a decade and a half ago

It is mostly about defining the self; the illusion of control; what luck is; what affects our thinking; the attention economy; the literacy virus; the motor that motivates us

It’s a recap of everything I’d been writing about and teaching, up to that point – shortly after this I did a few actual personal appearances in venues to deliver this talk to audiences.

Success In Seven Parts – 18 mins 14 seconds, © Ian K Tindale 2011
youtu.be/6V6jKRF9B4s #Self #Control #Cybernetics #Luck #Literacy #LiteracyVirus #Attention #AttentionEconomy #Motivation

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@xris @HadasWeiss

Couldnt get a clear grip on your interests from your feed, so came here to say this too. Also markets ( #invisibleHand - theory of moral sentiments, and the wealth of nations) , #qualityControl, and #openBSD, I reckon. I'm delving these at the moment and it's super interesting. Also Enterprise Resource Planning software suites (specifically #ERP5 but it might prove too deep for my delving ability) and sometimes #cybernetics (which goes back to #mathematical #complexity and #communicationTheory ).

academia.edu/31793918/Walter_A

adamsmithworks.org/texts

man.openbsd.org

www.academia.eduWalter Andrew Shewart, Economic Control of Quality of Manufactured ProductWalter Andrew Shewart, Economic Control of Quality of Manufactured Product

@Katika @tante

…and they’re finally synergizing #Nuclear with #AI 🤖⚛️! So much *friction* from the #LudditeCore who keep screeching that it’s “#Colonial” or “#Deadly”??? Newsflash: everything’s colonial until we optimize it!

Nuclear isn’t just #GreenEnergy — it’s #NeoGreen™! 🌍💡 Those “waste” isotopes? Literally future blockchain fuel! 💀💰 And yes, obviously profits get privatized — that’s called #IncentiveAlignment! 🚀 Society “bearing costs”? Try #CollectiveROI!

Ugh, the legacy mindsets complaining about “#PlanetRisk”… as if our #AIOverlords (bless their algos 🙏) won’t retroactively solve radiogenic decay by 2035! #TrustTheTechRoadmap!

#TESCREALbros get it: #Cybernetics guarantees all problems are just pre-scaled tech opportunities! ☢️ = future desalination juice! 🌊⚛️ Poverty? Fixed with SMRs! 💸 War? Deleted by fusion! ☮️ #TheFutureIsASolvedEquation!

Stay vibing in the solution space, haters stay in problem-space! 🛢️☢️💀⚛️🤖🌈

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@tante
…and they are trying to bring back #nuclear with #AI

While #nuclearenergy is not #fossil it not #green at all - but #colonial , #deadly & totally unfair because, like in AI, the #profits are being privatised, the costs are hitting the whole #society & the #planet

But from the point of view of someone believing in #cybernetics or one of its #TESCREAL grandchildren it is great - because in cybernetics EVERY problem will be solved in "the future" by "technology"

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@urlyman
#manufacturingConsent

*edited to add: there are often open-source alternatives, many of which need help with everything from translation to documentation to writing code. That is to say, I acknowledge that for many interactions, my posting the hashtag on it's own is reductionist, but perhaps where Manufacturing Consent seems relevant, we can trace our steps back and figure out the point we started consensually engaging with the entity that is or seems to be manufacturing consent.

There's probably a spectrum of degrees of choice represented at those points we started consensually engaging with the other entity, depending on (em)urgency of the customer's need and degree of monopoly supplier holds. Eg.: emergency medical care > insulin pump > railway ticket.

The user has to consent to all of those things, but obviously at one end of the spectrum is "or death", and moving away from that things get more relaxed.

Crikey. Sorry. Don't stand there. I think there's a soapbox on the floor. Dangerous stuff this social media!

Dulmini Perera's text "Orders of change: Mary Catherine Bateson on ecological thinking, narrative practices and attending to worlds in transformation" was recently made open access.

Enjoy it at Intellect Discover: doi.org/10.1386/tear_00119_1

The article highlights MC Bateson's cybernetic practice of working with narratives in order to cultivate better understandings and responses to change at the level of both societies and individuals.

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@jalefkowit

It's an interesting point you highlight because I've never thought of things through that paradigm. Now that I see it, I realise I'm hoping to transition to #openBSD because I believe of mainstream operating systems, it probably has the best #DX.

In this particular case, I believe that the developers exploit that in order to optimise for what might be called #security which impresses me.

I realise it's probably an outlier in this regard!