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Wim🧮This is looking ever worse"UK needs more nuclear to power AI, says Amazon boss"Likely outcome: the nuclear projects will be vastly over time and over budget, forcing the use of fossil fuel generation to power all those data centres, because prioritising nuclear means deprioritising renewables.[I removed the claim about profitability as it is disputed and muddles the waters.]<a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewd5014wpno" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewd5014wpno</a><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a>

Wim🧮The calculations in my article are done using a proper Life Cycle Analysis model with the best data on embodied emissions available in the literature.I don't use the energy consumption of the actual models, that is a distraction. Data centre capacity is expressed in GW, I used the projections of growth of AI data centres from various sources. That provides an aggregate picture of the growth of energy use and emissions.All references are in the article.<a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a>

Wim🧮Free tier ChatGPT access is the driver for adoption and growth. The kind of growth the AI companies want is nothing short of disastrous. <a href="https://wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.page/articles/the-real-problem-with-AI/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.page/articles/the-real-problem-with-AI/</a>So don't come and tell me your personal ChatGPT use doesn't matter. <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a>

Wim🧮Just imagine what would happen to OpenAI if everybody stopped using ChatGPT tomorrow (and mutatis mutandis for other providers of similar services). <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a>

LOCAVERDI B.V.At <a href="https://mstdn.business/tags/locaverdi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#locaverdi</a>, we believe that <a href="https://mstdn.business/tags/IT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IT</a> needs to be put on an energy diet. Our world does not need more computational power, or <a href="https://mstdn.business/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a>. Conserving energy and resources is vital to a healthy and liveable planet. <a href="https://mstdn.business/tags/efficiency" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#efficiency</a> should be a main focus point in <a href="https://mstdn.business/tags/developing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#developing</a> <a href="https://mstdn.business/tags/software" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#software</a> and <a href="https://mstdn.business/tags/hardware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hardware</a>. <a href="https://mstdn.business/tags/frugalcomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#frugalcomputing</a>. Do more with less energy and resources. Just that.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://56k.dile-up.nl/users/fristi_ebooks" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@fristi_ebooks</a> use a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/fanless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fanless</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ThinClient" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ThinClient</a> as a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Server" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Server</a>?<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Reuse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Reuse</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MiniServer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MiniServer</a>

Wim🧮From that perspective, this is worth a re-read <a href="https://hackernoon.com/carbon-aware-computing-next-green-breakthrough-or-new-greenwashing" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://hackernoon.com/carbon-aware-computing-next-green-breakthrough-or-new-greenwashing</a><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a>

Earth NotesRSS Podcast Feed Inefficiency - Climate cost of handling feeds ineptly... <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/RSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RSS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/podcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#podcast</a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/LowCarbonComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LowCarbonComputing</a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/greenSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#greenSoftware</a> - <a href="https://www.earth.org.uk/RSS-efficiency.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.earth.org.uk/RSS-efficiency.html</a>

Wim🧮<a href="https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@nixCraft</a> The problem is not that people say thank you, the problem is that they use ChatGPT in the first place. This thing is an abomination on so many levels. I focus on the environmental one:<a href="https://wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.page/articles/the-real-problem-with-AI/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://wimvanderbauwhede.codeberg.page/articles/the-real-problem-with-AI/</a><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a>

Csepp 🌢"<a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/Flow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Flow</a> was made entirely with <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/Blender" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Blender</a> and rendered with EEVEE. Each frame took from about 0.5 – 10 seconds to render in 4k. We didn’t use a renderfarm. The final render was done on my PC. There was no compositing, all the colors were tweaked and adjusted using shaders."Nice to see some <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/frugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#frugalComputing</a> in theatrical <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/3D" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#3D</a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/animation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#animation</a>, intentional or not. :neofox_uwu:<a href="https://www.blender.org/user-stories/making-flow-an-interview-with-director-gints-zilbalodis/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.blender.org/user-stories/making-flow-an-interview-with-director-gints-zilbalodis/</a>

smallsolar<a href="https://mastodon.social/@linker3000" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@linker3000</a> while the costs are less for the Pi if you can run more services on the leveno then you'll potentially reduce the costs of having to run another device.As I've learnt from <a href="https://scholar.social/@wim_v12e" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@wim_v12e</a> the energy cost of production may well outweigh the cost of powering a device like this over its whole lifetime - so within reason if you can reuse and avoid new actually this is may be a better approach <a href="https://techhub.social/tags/frugalcomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#frugalcomputing</a>

Wim🧮I think this is a point worth making again: for may of the tasks where genAI is touted as the solution, we already have tools to assist with them, or we could easily create them. If such tools have not been adopted yet, that is not a technology problem. <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a> <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a>

Earth NotesRSS Podcast Feed Inefficiency - Climate cost of handling feeds ineptly... <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/RSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RSS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/podcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#podcast</a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/LowCarbonComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LowCarbonComputing</a> <a href="https://mastodon.energy/tags/greenSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#greenSoftware</a> - <a href="https://m.earth.org.uk/RSS-efficiency.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://m.earth.org.uk/RSS-efficiency.html</a>

Wim🧮Combine this with the awful environmental cost of AI and it is clear that this technology would do more harm than good even if it actually improves productivity in some sectors.<a href="https://scholar.social/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a> <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/FrugalComputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FrugalComputing</a>

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