@rakoo @cy yeah, tho @thunderbird nowadays has #OpenPGP / #GPG - support built in ( #Enigmail ) and that just works.

• But @delta / #deltaChat does make things way easier for "#TechIlliterate #Normies" and provides them with a familiar #UI & #UX from other #Messengers whilst also not requiring "yet another #server / #service" to be spun up, which is a major no-no in many organizations, espechally #businesses.

• Whereas DeltaChat using #eMail as it's backbone infrastructure works fine, and that is an important point for it like #business use [i.e. #Germany] where all business communications have to be archived for at least 10 years for tax auditability reasons, and the whole #MailArchival issue has been "solved" by multiple providers and solutions so it makes sense to just do a +chat suffix, filter said messages and have them in the same #inbox as all other eMails.

I just wished #Thunderbird would also support displaying such chats similar to deltaChat to provide a #unified experience across platforms...

@wolf480pl @cas it's easy...

The reasons one can despise something and the reason one appreciates it can be different.

I.e. I can appreciate #macOS for it's #accessibility right from the #installer but I can #despise it for #Apple not selling it as a commercial #Unix distro for a #subscription

Same with #bash: I can appreciate it for being better than #sh (unix-#shell) , #tcsh or #csh but I despise it for not having modernized like #fish.

• And with fish I appreciate it but I despise it's not the default #shell for any #Linux distro I can use in #production.

It's called having "mixed feelings" or rather #NuancedOpinion.

• Kinda like how every #skiddie and #TechIlliterate can use #Windows but that Windows is shit and the only reason they can is because they got groomed into being #consoomers that accept #enshittification as a fact of life.

@stevenaleach @hannah The problem is that #Microsoft pays the big #OEM|s $25 per preinstall and #TechIlliterate #Consoomers and #Normies don't know better...

• It's the same with #Adobe #Acrobat: EVERY SINGLE #PDF READER IS BETTER - INCLUDING pdf.js on #InternetExplorer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=158bJFTETRI

@squads no they ain't - they are #WastefulComputing at best if not #exploitation with #clickworkers who have no other means to make ends meet!

• Stop shilling #garbage that only #TechBros who have 0 skills beyond swaying even more #TechIlliterate #VCs into burning money get excited about!

@karl_ist_super weil die meisten "#Normies" einfach nur #TechIlliterate #KonsumOpfer sind, denen alles shiceegal ist.

• Dieselben Leute wählen auch #CDU / #CSU & #NSAfD und sind entweder altersbedingt oder aus Verfassungsfeindlichkeit #Letztwähler die sich zumindest innerlich von #Grundgesetz & #FDGO "abgemeldet" haben!

@ajsadauskas @JessTheUnstill @tomiahonen @fuchsiii Maybe had #Mozilla actually cared they could've convinced #Nokia to do #FirefoxOS and we'd not have the shitty #Duopoly of today, but as we all know the decisions were made by #TechIlliterate suits that are just #HornyForMoney"…

@empathicqubit @crazy_pony @signalapp @monocles @delta

I disagree, because the few steps needed can be taught to literal #TechIlliterates within minutes, and I did so several times, walking them through.

• We as #TechLiterates are responsible to teach #TechLiteracy to #TechIlliterate "#Normies", or we deserve then damnation through our own hubris!

@ryanc @kajer @cR0w this sounds like some #TechIlliterate demanded something because an intern can't do #DNS and just give you an #FQDN instead...

@f @ai6yr @briankrebs I think it's less of a "#political" question but an act of #SelfDefense and #MutualDefense at this point.

• So far @torproject / #TorBrowser set to highest security settings is the most secure option that has proper maintenance & track record and ain't a #TUI-only app like #LynxBrowser.

Re: #TechIlliterates that are unwilling to learn, act like a "#BenevolentDictator" and enshure they can't harm themselves in the sense that they don't get #sudo or other administrative privilegues and can't do any #persistent #changes.

• And if that means they get forced to use #Tails then that's a "necessary evil"...

After all, societies almost everywhere ban people from driving motor vehicles faster than 6 km/h by people who actively refuse to even take basic exams and classes for a #DrivingLicense.

• And I'm convinced one can do more damage as #TechIlliterate with a #PC than a single-cylinger two-stroke engine driven motorcycle...

@ai6yr @briankrebs OFC this targets #TechIlliterates and the only effective means here are:

1. Teach #TechLiteracy instead of consumerism.
2. Mandate #confirmation & #notification - #PopUp|s for every use of #Clipboard (similar to #webcam use by websites)...
3. Ban #JavaScript - seriously!
4. Ban #Windows, because it's a #Govware, espechally since #Windows10 and even more so on #Windows11 that is *insecure in every configuration!
5. Put #TechIlliterates before a system they can't feck up. I.e. @tails_live @tails / #Tails for that reason alone (can't run such commands if they neither got #root nor any #persistent #storage to target).
6. Normalize the use of @torproject #TorBrowser!
7. #Teach #tech #literacy instead of #consumerism!
8. Ban #GAFAMs and their shitty products!
9. Migrate every #TechIlliterate to #Linux and don't give them administrative privilegues.
10. Teach tech literacy instead of consumerism!

@lauren I disagree as @signalapp requires a #PhoneNumber = #PII & cost barrier and they restrict access based off #PhoneNumbers.

• Plus it's illegal in an increasing number if juristictions to gmeven attempt to acquire a phone number or SIM anonymously.

Whereas it's so easy and fast to get #TechIlliterates setup with #XMPP+#OMEMO (which uninke #Signal doesn't demand PII!) that I'd challenge you to a #speedrun with step-by-step documentation for every #TechIlliterate to follow along to setup Signal from scratch vs. me doing #XMPP+#OMEMO on @monocles @gajim.

• Cuz I did that on @cryptoparty / #CryptoParty / #CryptoParties quite often.

Also #Signal being #centralized makes it as vulnerable as any other #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider solution!

• Whereas even if #monocles were to shutdown, one could easily switch over to any other provider or #SelfHosting.

I'd not count on the #Trump-Regime not flexing #CloudAct against anyone they deem undesireable!

@codeofamor @gyptazy yeah, I don't get how "#TechIlliterate" #Normies can even use the #Web without #AdBlockers and stuff...

• Shit's today so bad, it makes #Zango infestations 20 years ago look harmless by comparison...

I guess I left that plane of existance long ago...

@tauon Actually, you want to use a truly secure as in real #E2EE solution like #XMPP+#OMEMO as in @monocles / #monoclesChat and @gajim /#gajim...

• And for those "#TechIlliterate #Normies / #Consoomers" that are too scared to #degoogle or even use @fdroidorg they have a #GlobalSwitchDay #promo right now:https://monocles.social/@monocles/113925173206088469

@bagder Problem with that is (besides occasional bugfixes), most people including myself would see #curl to be functionally complete and anything "nice to have" would be considered not worth the balooning in #complexity and #size.

• I mean, does curl need to be able to do #BitTorrent (magnet:), #IPFS (ipfs://) or god forbid #blockchain (i.e. #EVM) support?

• Do you really want to integrate @torproject / #Tor support natively into curl when using #HTTP (localhost:8118) and #SOCKS5 (localhost:9050) #proxy allows for the same and doesn't necessitate having to handle and ingest Tor arguments as well??

In fact if #toybox didn't have a #wget implementation that I could use for OS/1337 I would've merely chosen tiny-curl -o as a global alias or if #tinycurl wasn't an option, curl -o instead.

• Maybe someone who wants to have said functionality like tor support built-in will go and IDK make i.e. #neocurl or sth. along those lines or build something like #ethcurl or #torcurlor #ipfscurl or whatever...

That being said I am glad curl isn't solely maintained by you but has other contributors (give them a shoutout!) but I also am glad you maintain that vital software that most "#TechIlliterate #Normies" most likely never heard of but propably use on a daily basis as part of all the #tech they use to #consume media with...

• I consider curl to be "the #vim of downloaders" (tho that's kinda insulting and limiting since curl is more than just a downloader and more intuitive than vim) with wget being "the #vi of downloaders" (tho wget is even simpler to use than vi)...

Either way, curl is awesome...

@megmac excellent.choice if #secrity is first priority by a long shot.

• Tho granted #OpenBSD is pretty underwheling as a #Desktop and whilst I could force myself to do that, I'm confident most "#TechIlliterate Normies" would give me the finger within 15 seconds...

But for a #Server that needs to be secure yet accessible on the public internet it's good.

• Espechally if one wants to frustrate #Skiddies and State-sponsored attackers at the same time!

@nixCraft #Funfsct: some #TechIlliterate dipshit wearing a talar most likely things this is "#hacking" or some bs.