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adb<a href="https://karlsruhe-social.de/@cehteh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@cehteh</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DOOM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DOOM</a> was one of the reasons the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> size limit was increased in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a>, it was already ported back on 2023! read:<a href="https://support.delta.chat/t/proposal-remove-bump-xdc-file-size-cap/2828" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://support.delta.chat/t/proposal-remove-bump-xdc-file-size-cap/2828</a>if you search for "doom" you will find the download link, you need to rename the extension .zip to .xdc fun fact: it was also ported by the same person that ported <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Quake" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Quake</a>!!! <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@delta</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@n0iroh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@n0iroh</a>

Delta ChatIt had to happen: in-chat multi-player <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Quake" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Quake</a> III Arena <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> app, running over <a href="https://mastodon.social/@n0iroh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@n0iroh</a> and using the fine work of <a href="https://ioquake3.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://ioquake3.org/</a> folks. Quake3 app is 1.2MB but you need to download once a game file of ~50 MB. It's only one level. Realtime-P2P-networked multiplayer gaming arranged through securely end-to-end encrypted email, from a group chat! Both Quake3's in-game chat as well as game play messages have forward-secrecy. What a weird future, eh? :)<a href="https://webxdc.org/apps/#wofwca-quake3" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://webxdc.org/apps/#wofwca-quake3</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://sfba.social/@scott" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@scott</a> <a href="https://mastodon.gassner.io/@peter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@peter</a> if you need any advise or support let us know :) We particular recommend onboarding with a pre-existing group because then the biggest roadblock, "who can I chat with", is mitigated. Many families, little orgs and ad-hoc groups like attendees in a conference talk, successfully started using <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> this way and particularly appreciated <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps that provide an in-chat interactive experience.

Delta Chat1 cent per five years .... is the current marginal hosting cost for a <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> address, with which <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> apps facilitate world-wide private messaging including interactive <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps that run end-to-end encrypted in any chat group.<1 Million EUR per year is the estimated marginal hosting costs for 350 Million EU citizens. Such scaling requires, however, research and development, including careful UX and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cryptography" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cryptography</a> work. Related writing from <a href="https://mastodon.social/@gordon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@gordon</a> <a href="https://newsletter.squishy.computer/p/cryptography-scales-trust" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://newsletter.squishy.computer/p/cryptography-scales-trust</a>

Delta ChatYesterday, 20 people from the <a href="https://safesisters.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://safesisters.org</a> community onboarded with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> in Lusaka, Zambia. Everything worked! Usability, privacy and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/OfflineFirst" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OfflineFirst</a> ops were appreciated and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> app based organizing met strong interest. Many participants engage in addressing challenges from surveillance state actors, family and partner abuse. Moreover, people with visual impairment were happy about Android's screen reader support.It's events like this that validate our efforts!<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/africa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#africa</a>

:radare2: radare :verified:You can run r2 or any of it’s tools inside <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@delta</a> here’s a sample <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> app embedding all the assembler/disassemblers of radare2 <a href="https://github.com/radareorg/r2wasm/tree/master/xdc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/radareorg/r2wasm/tree/master/xdc</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://fe.disroot.org/users/kskarthik" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kskarthik</a> we are aware of the importance of native calls for mass usage. Webrtc is discussed and also <a href="https://mastodon.social/@n0iroh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@n0iroh</a> based solutions because we use it already for P2P <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> realtime data channels. But someone experienced with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/rustlang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#rustlang</a> focusing on this call area would be helpful, and could lead to relatively quick results, likely.

Delta Chat<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> ist a community messenger much more than a monetary focused enterprise. Its offspring developments, the growing <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> efforts are also community grounded.Is there any other cross-platform FOSS messaging project, implementing <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/RightToExit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RightToExit</a> on many levels, putting all interesting and sensitive computation and interactions into end users devices, constantly and radically denying centrality/control of billionaires and big-tech, to the extent currently possible?

Delta Chat23 is the number of currently active <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays we heart about by now. Only 6 are listed at <a href="https://chatmail.at/relays" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://chatmail.at/relays</a> to complicate ongoing state-level blocking attempts. Please keep setting up <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays -- and thanks to all the early adopters and carers!July 2025 some key contributors will do sessions in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Lille" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Lille</a>, France at <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@passthesaltcon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@passthesaltcon</a> and discuss the state of efforts to scale <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> to billions of people and bots, without any central points of control.

Delta ChatOrganizational note: It might appear that <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> contributors are easily "on the same page". In fact, there are many ongoing controversial discussions in backrooms and public spaces. We are dealing with tons of user perspectives and feedback, researcher and developer stances, many UX/UI considerations, complex implementation and platform adaptation. We are internally allowing contradictions and complexity ... See also Ashby's requisite variety <a href="https://edgeofpossible.com/ashbys-law-variety-organisational-change/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://edgeofpossible.com/ashbys-law-variety-organisational-change/</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@pancake" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@pancake</a> several games have been ported -- any web game (framework) should be easy to port to <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a>

Delta ChatThe trajectory of E2E-encryption is about de-platforming: There shall be no central machines that can control the edges/peers, and the social groups and virtual centers they freely form. Our <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> R&D around <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps all aim to realize such a "zero-platforms" fully E2E-encrypted interaction model. However, this is *not* just about cryptographic cleverness. Rather it is about usable anti-authoritarian designs, as explicitly stated in January <a href="https://delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires</a>

Delta ChatDo you struggle to keep your <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/TOTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TOTP</a> secrets synced and backed up properly? Do you wish you could give a group of people access to ephemeral authentication tokens? Then TOTP <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> from <a href="https://chaos.social/@rtn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@rtn</a> might be for you! Cross platform multi-device support means that you can use these tokens from any device, and you have a natural backup should one device go bust. As with all webxdc apps there is no server hosting involved. Everything is only visible on respective devices and end-to-end encrypted between

floDeltaChat ist "mehr", als ein reiner Messenger. Er verfügt über einen "XStore", über den neben kleinen Spielen weitere In-Apps genutzt werden können, wie zB - To-Do-Liste - Shopping-Liste - Zeiterfassung - Rechnungs-Aufteilung - ein Mastodon Archive Reader, - kollaborative Dokumenten-Bearbeitung - gemeinsam nutzbare Kalender - Umfragen (nicht geheim) - und viel, viel mehr. Edit: Link ergänzt Hintergrund zur Funktionsweise der "In-Chat-Apps": <a href="https://delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires</a> Super-genial, gerade für Familien und Gruppen! DeltaChat ist demaßen niederschwellig, dass es fast schon lachhaft ist: 1. Installation, 2. Account mit automatisch E2E-verschlüsselter E-Mail-Adresse erstellen, 3. Chatten. - keine Rufnummer nötig, - keine Logindaten, - minimale Metadaten, - usw. Genial einfach. Sicher. Schnell. Testet ihn doch mal: <a href="https://delta.chat" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">delta.chat</a> <a href="https://iceshrimp.de/notes/a64jzwetro6jswwi" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">iceshrimp.de/notes/a64jzwetro6jswwi</a> <a href="https://iceshrimp.de/tags/DeltaChat" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> <a href="https://iceshrimp.de/tags/Messenger" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Messenger</a> <a href="https://iceshrimp.de/tags/UnplugTrump" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UnplugTrump</a> <a href="https://iceshrimp.de/tags/UnplugUSA" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UnplugUSA</a> <a href="https://iceshrimp.de/tags/EuropeanAlternative" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EuropeanAlternative</a> <a href="https://iceshrimp.de/tags/webxdc" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a>

Delta Chatoh, wow. We just heard from <a href="https://krefeld.life/@darestiet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@darestiet</a> that there is an upcoming <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/hackday" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#hackday</a> workshop called "Transcend the limits of your group chats: collaborative apps" ... WHERE: townhall of city of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Moers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Moers</a>WHEN: Saturday afternoon 2pm. We can't remember to have heart about this before so it's very short notice only, maybe still interesting for people around Dortmund/Duesseldorf <a href="https://www.moers.de/veranstaltungen/hackday-2025-ueberwinde-die-grenzen-deiner-gruppenchats-kollaborative-dezentrale" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.moers.de/veranstaltungen/hackday-2025-ueberwinde-die-grenzen-deiner-gruppenchats-kollaborative-dezentrale</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://tech.lgbt/@risottobias" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@risottobias</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@ryanprior" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ryanprior</a> these general app store considerations and critiques are valid but have no meaning in the context of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps. They are zip files, anyone can put them into a chat. Anyone can curate/maintain their own list of interesting zip files. <a href="https://webxdc.org/apps" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://webxdc.org/apps</a> is just a community collection. Users don't need to go there to get or use an app. Apps also don't get updated in-place. Once posted, they stay exactly the same.

Delta Chat<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@Ketakater" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Ketakater</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@ryanprior" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ryanprior</a> @risottobias apps like checklist or "split bill" are less than 100KB. The Pixel app is 241 lines of Javascript without any dependency: 3900 bytes including an icon. <a href="https://codeberg.org/webxdc/pixel/src/branch/main/script.js" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://codeberg.org/webxdc/pixel/src/branch/main/script.js</a><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps are very very minimal and all come with inspectable source code. There are no http requests at all. So it's not even that hard to verify there are no side channel attempts in most existing appa. An app literally is a zip-file btw, see also <a href="https://delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires</a>

Delta ChatDear fans of messenger comparison sports, How does it factor in that on <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> there are many apps that can be used in a chat without requiring a login or even a privacy policy ... And the apps all work like cryptpad but automatically and without requiring any server side hosting? Editing documents and checklists and calendars are all safely end-to-end encrypted without a server and anyone can write new <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps permission free. Which other cross-platform messenger offers this?

HB75Nice. Im <a href="https://social.saarland/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> Checklisten anlegen. Memos erstellen klappt auch. <a href="https://webxdc.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://webxdc.org/</a> <a href="https://social.saarland/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a>

wakest ⁂<a href="https://mastodon.guerilla.studio/@tixie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tixie</a> <a href="https://weirder.earth/@jag" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jag</a> this needs to be made into a <a href="https://social.wake.st/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> app!

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