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Hi, All!

I wonder if you would be willing to share any insights or experiences you might have navigating the following (boosts appreciated)

1. #Codependence / enmeshment within a romantic partnership and the resulting loss of self / self knowledge / being in touch with your own desires

2. Navigating partnership in which one person is dealing with chronic #disability

Thanks!
#askFedi

Kinda hard to believe that my #family tried flinging me off like a booger and crucified me, but yet, here I am. Looking hot, doing better, going forward. You can't kill me. I'm immortal. And the harder you try, the stronger I become. Being ME. Once you escape #codependence, it is....#freedom!!! It's hard. I'm on probation because I was desperate. But once it happens, it's so wonderful. The gods will provide! #mentalhealth #ptsd

Google PodcastsNo Stupid Questions - 172. Is Marriage Worth It?Can long-term relationships do more harm than good? Where is the line between intimacy and codependence? And should we all try to be more like Mike’s parents? RESOURCES: * "A Record-High Share of 40-Year-Olds in the U.S. Have Never Been Married," by Richard Fry (_Pew Research Center, _2023). * "Divorce Skyrocketing Among Aging Boomers," by Sharon Jayson (_AARP, _2023). * "Don’t Let Love Take Over Your Life," by Faith Hill (_The Atlantic, _2023). * "Marriage Provides Health Benefits – and Here’s Why," by Libby Richards, Melissa Franks, and Rosie Shrout (_The Conversation, _2023). * "The Benefits of Diversifying Your Social Portfolio," by Samantha Boardman (_Psychology Today, _2023). * "Satisfying Singlehood as a Function of Age and Cohort: Satisfaction With Being Single Increases With Age After Midlife," by Yoobin Park, Elizabeth Page-Gould, and Geoff MacDonald (_Psychology and Aging, _2022). * "Pathology in Relationships," by Susan C. South (_Annual Review of Clinical Psychology, _2021). * "Behind 'the Collateral Heartbreak' and Intense Devotion of the Reagans' Decades-Long Romance," by Virginia Chamlee (_People, _2021). * "U.S. Marriage Rate Plunges to Lowest Level on Record," by Janet Adamy (_The Wall Street Journal, _2020). * "The Suffocation Model: Why Marriage in America Is Becoming an All-or-Nothing Institution," by Eli J. Finkel, Elaine O. Cheung, Lydia F. Emery, Kathleen L. Carswell, and Grace M. Larson (_Current Directions in Psychological Science, _2015). EXTRAS: * "Are We Getting Lonelier?" by _No Stupid Questions _(2023). * "The Facts Are In: Two Parents Are Better Than One," by _Freakonomics Radio _(2023). * “Why Did You Marry That Person? (Replay),” by _Freakonomics Radio _(2023). * “The Fracking Boom, a Baby Boom, and the Retreat From Marriage,” by _Freakonomics Radio _(2017).
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@moondog548 I do feel like patriarchy cripples men. Instead of addressing issues with creativity and intelligence they are give brute force as a solution to everything and here we are.😖
Man has big feelings- must hit something. Boys will be boys- which translates men will be boys… their tools for maturity are stunted and often stuck in perpetual juvenility. Many women are brought up in #codependence with this dysfunction. Things are changing….thankfully 🙏.

Dr. Stan : “The purpose of a relationship is fundamentally grounded in safety and security: not love, not attraction, not romance. If you’re not providing that need to ensure each other’s sense of and , it defies the whole psychobiological purpose of being with another person.”

🫡 ❤️ 🌱

Anne : “We can’t arrange peace or lasting improvement for the people we love most in the world. […] Help is the sunny side of . Stop helping so much. Don’t get your help and all over everybody.”
ted.com/talks/anne_lamott_12_t 🐻

Reading #relationship books written for “#normals” when your partner
has a #ClusterB #PersonalityDisorder is like reading a how to build a birdhouse
manual in order to learn how to swim safely with sharks.

In other words, it's not going to help.

A relationship with a #narcissist, #borderline, #histrionic or Cluster B variety pack isn't dysfunctional and toxic due to the issues non-disordered people have in relationships. The problems aren't due to deficient #CommunicationSkills. Nor is because you don't "speak their #LoveLanguage." And it isn't because you're from Mars/Venus and they're from Uranus -- or whatever not take #responsibility-#BlameShifting-#DARVO bullshit excuse they concoct.

It's because they have an un/diagnosed personality disorder. Their love language is Crazy. They lack the fundamental emotional and psychological capacity to have a healthy and reciprocal emotionally mature relationship built upon mutual respect and empathy.

Furthermore, being more empathic, patient and "loving them harder" isn't going to help you either. That advice results in more #enabling, #codependence and #TraumaBonding -- not more love.

Again, the real issues are the #NPD, #BPD, #HPD character pathology, which can't be fixed. And your #codependency, #peoplepleasing, #traumahealing, etc., which you can work on.

If you want to learn how to have healthier relationships, read about how to best protect yourself from emotionally manipulative liars/predators and how to address your codependency and family of origin issues because nothing else is going to work.

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My path has included , , and , and thoughts of , luckily punctuated my proving to me anyway is real.

I’ve practiced , am a -Teacher able to Initiate others, former volunteer w

I’ve been a moderator for support groups, made a lot of friends diagnosed and suspect I’m too.