@markstos Heehee.
#FirefoxNightly + #Mv2 #uBO + #Sidebery + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = THE best browsing & sophisticated tab management + Web Panel UX i've ever had, easily eclipsing Vivaldi, 
#Floorp, 
#ZenBrowser, Waterfox, LibreWolf... ergo = 
#FirefoxNightly + #NativeVerticalTabs + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = Very usable already as of Feb 2025, albeit less powerful than Sidebery, ergo =
@noave yo soy también usuario de Firefox, pero te recomiendo Floorp. Que es un fork con extras, con lo que siempre le faltó a Firefox (aunque ahora están metiendo) . Como contenedores integrados, espacios de trabajo, etc. Aunque ahora está un poco desactualizado y hasta floorp 12 Firefox va por delante. #floorp.
Y basado en chromium, en linux uso ungoogled chromium, me parece medio decente. Y en Windows uso Vivaldi
Not long after I can't find any reason to keep Zen Browser around I removed it. I still have one would say a web browser collection and rather have vastly different ones for different use cases. I already had Librewolf and Floorp that I continue to use, Chromium for the odd websites that aren't work that well in Firefex based browsers and lastly qutebrowser that use mainly for opening up links that I see in posts.
I think for now I can stop experimenting with browsers, except if I find one that I haven't tried yet that's preferably not a chromium based one. I tried out any of them that interested me, some of them are around for a long time that I wanted to check out, the others are the ones that I never tried. In the first category that I check out sometimes is Vivaldi. Those that fall into the later category Zen Browser, Floorp and Mullvad Browser.
While Mullvad Browser would be a good choice only if I use any VPN, which I don't and don't see a reason to use it without one.
And yes I have admit Zen and Floorp are both have some little bugs that I had encountered while using them, all of those where UI related. But until I found these bugs really annoying in Floorp I will continue to keep it around and use it.
Wait a minute, Haiku has Floorp but BSD doesn't?
WTF? #BSD #HaikuOS #computing #operatingsystems #Floorp
After Floorp I thought why not I should try out Zen Browser too.
Zen too offers some features that only as far as I know exist only in Zen, there's Zen Mods which are basically just extensions made by the community. It's an interesting unique thing I haven't seen any other web browser that does anything like that. I generally as a rule doesn't like to use extensions with the exception of UBlock Origin so this feature is not something I care about, but nonetheless it's impressive how much the UI itself can be customized with the help of Zen Mods.
Zen Browser is way more customization then Floorp, while both having some settings that are the same or somewhat equal, for instance both allow the user to customize the keyboard shortcuts and vertical tabs is there for those who care about having vertical tabs without the need of an extension, I personally like vertical tabs they take up less space. Although I heard Firefox has vertical tabs too for awhile, but I'm not using Firefox on the desktop so IDK how well it works or if it's similar to what we get in Floorp and Zen.
@forteller @zenbrowser That sucks. :( Can't say it has happened to me, I've been using #zen for about 2 months or so... Before that I was using #floorp which is also worth checking out.
IDK how Floorp could escape my attention for so long, I only recently started to hear about it. Today I installed it and only used it for a couple of hours and I'm impressed how good it is. It's a very promising browser that I already started to like more then Firefox and easily beats all of the other ones that are based on Firefox. The other one that I like is LibreWolf with it's very sane default settings plus it came with the only extension that I ever need with UBlock Origin out of the box. I keep both of them on my system since they are different enough.
With all of these Chromium changes this year, I think I’m going to give Floorp another try as my daily driver for a while. Features similar to Vivaldi, but a Firefox fork.
#Floorp 自分も応援はしている。
インストールはしているのだけど全然使えてはいないんだけど 
同じ #Firefox フォークのものだと #ZenBrowser のほうが UI 的には Arc インスパイアな感じでちょっと洗練されている気がしている。
そういう意味でも #Floorp にはより #Vivaldi 的な親近感もある（日本で開発されてるし
@cynical13 @zenbrowser After being an early fan, i more or less abandoned #ZenBrowser several months ago, for its terrible unreliability, & various feature developments either of no interest to me, or which i actively disliked. Last week i decided to give it another chance... but in less than 24 hours it broke itself again [my various UI customisations reset to default], & lost all my tabs again.
Consequently:
#FirefoxNightly + #Mv2 #uBO + #Sidebery + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = THE best browsing & sophisticated tab management + Web Panel UX i've ever had, easily eclipsing Vivaldi, #Floorp, #ZenBrowser, Waterfox, LibreWolf... ergo =
#FirefoxNightly + #NativeVerticalTabs + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = Very usable already as of Feb 2025, albeit less powerful than Sidebery, ergo =
@mauro Otoh i am officially #FUD-free.
#FirefoxNightly + #Mv2 #uBO + #Sidebery + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = THE best browsing & sophisticated tab management + Web Panel UX i've ever had, easily eclipsing Vivaldi, #Floorp, #ZenBrowser, Waterfox, LibreWolf... ergo =
#FirefoxNightly + #NativeVerticalTabs + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = Very usable already as of Feb 2025, albeit less powerful than Sidebery, ergo =
chwilowa przesiadka na #floorp - #przeglądarka ma trochę dodatkowych opcji do konfigurowania i ficzerów, zatem było sporo ustawiania. nie wspominając o kilkudziesięciu logowaniach...
poza tym to już trzecia po #librewolf i #waterfox pochodna firefoksa, która nie jest "kompatybilna" z twitchem. nie żebym jakoś szczególnie nad tym płakał
doceniam kontekst (#container) jako funkcję, ale podstawowe opcje są zbyt biedne. można ofc dodać conieco rozszerzeniami, ale nie wszystkie działają dobrze
@BrodieOnLinux@mstdn.social Floorp is what I recommend to people, who insist on sticking with Firefox.
As you pointed out, the obvious, if Firefox goes, so will all these many Firefox clones, because none of them have expressed interest in hard-forking Firefox, and going independent.
But, Floorp has two advantages.
1) They do not break things. LibreWolf, will break something (often), then blame Firefox. Which only further hurts, Firefox, which in turn only hurts, LibreWolf. -- It is a snake eating its tail. I think the 1x Floorp broke something, they patched it right away, and they owned up to their issue. They did not try to pass the blame, as LibreWolf does.
2) Floorp is very similar to Vivaldi Browser. If Firefox, goes, it would be nice not to have a big learning curve, if you need to switch browsers. If you've learned Floorp, you've more or less learned, Vivaldi, in many ways.
These are two things, I believe can help users in the long run.
#Floorp #Firefox #Mozilla #MozillaFirefox
@val @ALT43 @Hache @Simx72 @audricd @wsape23 @darkchocobo @gmoussayan @muchanchoasado Soy de quienes se quedan en #Firefox, aunque sus comentarios me han despertado el interés por #Floorp, no para cambiarme, sino para probarlo.
Valoro las alternativas, finalmente son el espíritu del #SoftwareLibre. Pero temo que la polémica sobre los términos de uso de #Firefox sea una estrategia para acabar con el único navegador que realmente y con muchas dificultades, planta cara a la visión de Internet que tienen las GAFAM, ¿qué pasaría con los navegadores derivados de Firefox si este dejara de desarrollarse? ¿habría suficiente "músculo" en sus comunidades para mantener en pie un navegador con la monstruosidad que ello implica?
@fnwbr And yet, here i be, revelling in the delightful UX that is my , with all the #telemetry disabled, the #AI disabled, numerous other parameters hardened via my #userJS, with the exquisite #Sidebery & its infinitely-nestable tree-tabs & multiple #Workspaces on its LHS, & the brilliant project #FirefoxSecondSidebar with my 21 #WebPanels on its RHS. It's such a great daily browsing UX, unfazed by the last ten days of global #FUD [all the so-called nasties can be disabled, either via simple clicks in the Settings UI, or otherwise via about:config / user.js]. Herd-mentality is a ridiculous trait of humans.
#FirefoxNightly + #Mv2 #uBO + #Sidebery + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = THE best browsing & sophisticated tab management + Web Panel UX i've ever had, easily eclipsing Vivaldi, #Floorp, #ZenBrowser, Waterfox, LibreWolf... ergo =
#FirefoxNightly + #NativeVerticalTabs + #uBlockOrigin + #FirefoxSecondSidebar = Very usable already as of Feb 2025, albeit less powerful than Sidebery, ergo =
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