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#opensolaris

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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@ytc1 @DenOfEarth @aka_pugs I know.

And espechally in #ScientificComputing a lot of researchers loved working with #SunMicrosystems and when #Oracle took over that relationship got sour'd instantly due to #Oracle #CEO #LarryEllison...

-> infosec.space/@kkarhan/1146825

One of the big successes of #Sun was that they basically declared a unilateral "ceasefire" in terms of #IP & #Patents re: #OpenSource. Whereas Oracle didn't seem willing to honour that.

  • Without that cooperative atmosphere we saw #OpenOffice devs literally forking off into @libreoffice and projects like #illumos and @openzfs scramble to save what was OpenSource'd and also rescue that.

Obviously #Linux with it's #GPLv2only-Kernel and most of it's Userland could not get 'closed-sourced' like #OpenSolaris which instantly got stomped out by Oracle as they wanted to sqeeze #Solaris for profits and milk their clients in typical Oracle fashion...

Now granted, I do know someone who for most of their life made their money dealing with the intricacies of setting up #postfix, #sendmail and #courier #MailServers on Solaris and if I ask said person about that they give me a kilometer stare, so OFC like a #SysV - #Unix systems Solaris and #SunOS really are one of the reasons #WindowsNT won the "#WorkstationWar" and why - if anyone - #Apple won the last "#UnixWar"...

  • Still I do am sad that I declined that #sysadmin position at a leading research center I'm not at liberty to name and I do know there's OFC still some critical infrastructure running even older Solaris servers...

mastodon.sdf.org/@ytc1/1146893

Infosec.SpaceKevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)@DenOfEarth@mas.to @aka_pugs@mastodon.social I know. Cade in point, #OpenSolaris did have avid users just below that range, and a lot of #ScientificComputing used it, as they previously used #IRIX. And #Sun being #OpenSourve-friendly was the right direction...
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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@BenBen @fabiscafe @okapi @chesheer I don't deny this to be a problem, far from it.

  • In an ideal world, stuff would be portable enough that the underlying init (and Userland in general) as well as Kernel didn't matter and merely be a different config file.

In reality, a substantial part of #Gnome devs (or at least contributors) are paid by the 3 major #Linux distros (#RHEL, #SLED, #Ubuntu) and whilst not being antragonistic towards #BSD|s don't get employed to enshure it runs on #FreeBSD, but that it runs better on the distro their employer is selling…

  • And given that these projects don't have infinite resources and espechally maintainers I don't blame them to redelegate a lot of work to #SystemD instead of reimplementing something themselves.

OFC it's saddening in regards to non-Linux #Unix-esque OSes, but given self-amplifying network effects both the murder of #OpenSolaris at the hands of #Oracle (with @EUCommission and #FTC as enablers!) and @iXsystems ditching #FreeBSD in #trueNAS alongside regressing #driver support for hardware outside of Linux, #macOS and #Windows, it's not a good time for these projects.

  • Which is bad because BSDs and other OSes force Linux to innovate and ' get gud '!
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Keldrim :verified_paw:

So with #Oracle putting out a new version of #Solaris plebs are allowed to touch I felt like unretiring a old PC and install #OpenIndiana #illumos on it. Wait you thought I would touch something the devil him self ruined? No Oracle axing #OpenSolaris was one of the reasons why I hate that company.

Anyway that was rough like seriously, first off finding parts that are supported, also their latest UI image is broken and I thought for hours the hardware was to blame, UEFI is supported but crashes the kernel on all my machines.

Had to use an older image from 10.24 to get it installed and then it took the whole day to update the system, USB stick mounting throws errors but other then that works ok now.

It's really such a shame opensolaris was my daily driver for nearly a year back then, was one of the reason I got comfy with compiling my own stuff again at that time. Still have a soft spot for that OS, would be cool if they could get more manpower again.

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joany

@matthew My interests in Sun started when i got my first #sunmicrosystems computer. Finding out about #opensolaris and #Illumos was eye-opening to put it mildly.
I ran a "NAS" machine some time with #omnios until i had a disk crash and motherboard failure #openindiana saved me that time

i can recommend

Mastodon (of course)

unitedbsd.com

smartos.org

tribblix.org

www.openindiana.org

illumos.org

omnios.org

youtube.com/@stephensmachinero

youtu.be/dxZExLeJz2I?si=mzs6Fu

Hope you find something useful 😊

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BoxyBSD

We just added a free #loadbalancing service to #BoxyBSD!

This new feature got added by @gyptazy in addition to the newly introduced #NAT64 gateways to make your life easier and is currently tested with a few users! This provides you the ability to make your website also reachable by #IPv4 even your box is only running on #IPv6. This feature can be managed from your self-service portal and simply requires you to add a DNS name that should be balanced and to point the DNS A record to a given IPv4.

Making the legacy internet life easier, we hope for a higher #BSD adaption where people might be more motivated to try #FreeBSD, #NetBSD, #OpenBSD or even #opensolaris with #illumos.

#hosting#opensource#runbsd
gyptazy

2025 is starting great - and I took all opportunities!

Like probably all personal playgrounds, I started small with many technically working but not ideal solutions. Ignoring several RFC's, standards etc,.

This also applies to my @BoxyBSD project that provides free VPS (#BSD focussed, such like #FreeBSD, #NetBSD, #OpenBSD but also #illumos / #opensolaris etc.,) boxes for the #opensource community and beginners to provide them a place for learning and education.

I decreased (yeah decreased) the amount of overall systems. Instead, we now have bigger sized systems which makes the overall management easier and also improved the whole networking stack. Also some other benefits came along with this ;) I'm really happy to see what 2025 brings up - and there're several great things to be announced soon :)

#RUNBSD
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