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TBH, this seems worse than having the road blocked by climate activists for a few minutes, much less talk about doing so on a Zoom call.
@davidho Nowadays when it rains it downpours.
@davidho Crowdstrike are the real climate activists today!
Nice photo of "beliefs" (per the judge).
There's a thread with Hallam's [1] own description of the court case [2] and a fund-raising page (40 kGBP so far) [3] which does appear to be curated [4] (never donate online without thorough checking).
Online discussion in our ;) bubble is fine for moral support, but legal funds would help too [3].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Hallam_%28activist%29
[2] https://climatejustice.social/@breadandcircuses/112813077838695771
[3] https://chuffed.org/project/support-the-five-on-trial-for-conspiracy
[4] https://chuffed.org/how-it-works-crowdfunding/before-you-start
@davidho this is easily solved with even larger US trucks that burn even more gas
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Yes this is not just, we should prosecute the water!
@davidho No, no, no, the difference is climate activists are avoidable, this is "force majeure"!
@davidho In NL we use sheep op the highway to block it for hours. 
https://nos.nl/l/2529317
@davidho ffs, people, y'all are missing the point. lemme spell it out:
people get all huffy when climate protests cause them inconveniences such as traffic jams on major roadways.
however, the actual climate changes, like impassably flooded roadways, are FAR more inconvenient -- and even dangerous -- yet nobody seems to get bitchy or angry about it, they just carry on.
correct me if i'm wrong, @davidho , but i don't think OP was trying to either justify protesting or belittle the idea of protesting. more like "if you think the protests are inconvenient, just wait until the thing they're protesting about actually hits you personally."
@davidho halte à l'écologie punitive 
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boat car hybrids will be the next big thing
@davidho MAGA people would say there's just a blocked drain 
@davidho And once the Greenbelt gets stripped, it'll get even worse. Hopefully this will help motivate change for that.
Hopefully. But then again, hope isn't a plan.
@davidho maybe they can sentence the flood to four or five years in prison
@davidho No. The shitstains that prevent normal working folks from getting to work, or school, or to doctor's appointments are far worse than whatever climate catastrophe they're protesting to prevent. I'm a big supporter of being as green as you can (hell I don't even own a car and take mass transit everywhere I go), but to say the "minor" inconvenience of a bunch of shitty people making themselves a nuisance for the greater good is ok proves that most of these shit piles have more in common with the corporate ass lickers that are doing the earth dirty. You want to camp out in front of a senators house or have a sit in in their office, or chain yourself to a tree in a forest, feel free... but when you start impacting hard working folks from living their lives, you're worse than the corporate shitbags that are destroying the environment.
@calsnoboarder @davidho worse than oil execs who's documented plans already kill millions, and will likely kill billions if left unchecked? Okay then.
Keep in mind, no disruption happened. There was discussion of doing so on a zoom call, and for just discussing it, the group was sentenced to 5 years.
@calsnoboarder @davidho no, you lavish lackwit, the protestor(s) causing a few minutes of disruption are *not* worse than entire islands drowning, beaches being lost, cities being flooded, huge landslides, killer heat waves, hurricanes or tornadoes.
Arrest that water!
@davidho : *the* solution to (flooding caused by) global warming appears to be monster trucks.
Precisely because none of them are to be seen in the photo going with the article you shared: a couple of feet of water poses no problem to them.
Some people appear to have simple solutions for huge problems.
But will the UK sentence rain-gods* to 25 yrs in jail
Ha! they're no gods but lowly traffic engineers who knew these extreme rain events were comin’ & instead of hardening our infrastructure during extreme weather, they pandered to #carbrain lobbyists & exposed American interests to that equalizer of #ClimateChange
This soggy highway is that Clausius—Clapeyron manifestation, nee, present political manisfestion, come future cognitive dissonance
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/7/19/uk-climate-activists-get-record-jail-terms-for-non-violent-protest
If by "rain gods" you mean fossil fuel CEOs, then yes.
But they're above the law. After all, they were also the ones who wrote these draconian laws and made right wing governments install them (do you think the UK is the only place).
It would be interesting to do an attribution study to assign blame — there is plenty to be had.
@davidho Ahhh, but you can arrest activists. You can’t arrest a flood.
So #hovercraft models actually do have a future in the car industry?