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#cannabis -- The cannabis community, especially the former/current legalization campaigners and activists, and especially the medical marijuana users find the idea of "reefer madness" and the stupid and lazy stoner stereotype extremely offensive.
We are responsible adults with careers, families, and responsibilities and we contribute to society.
THESE STEREOTYPES ARE USED AGAINST US ALL THE TIME.
It allows everyone to dismiss, ignore, and ridicule us. It prevents change to cannabis laws.
@jeffowski I'm pissed the "cannabis" community is stuck in the "get high" category, when HEMP is fucking so superfuckinguseful. it's criminal that we don't industrialize hemp.
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@mousey -- See? There you go...
Cannabis and Hemp are the SAME THING.
@jeffowski bruh, I'm not arguing that.
what I'm arguing is.. the cannabis *community* only focuses on the getting high part. every HempFest I've ever been to has been about getting high, and related paraphenalia.
I am YET to go to ANY cannabis conference that is about:
- industrial or consumer textiles
- fuels
- feed
- oils
- paper products
- cardboard products
- medicines (other than CBD)
- soaps, lotions, makeup
- building/construction materials
- paints or inks
- coatings
and so on.
But yeah like the seeds can just sink, once they sink they fail to germinate. If you do this you’ll end up with catastrophic results. Entire lost crop.
Hemp is cool but really the issues of growing it at scale are not pretty. This is talking the commercial uses you mentioned. However considering before we ever decided to plant hemp? The ag land was already used. So we have to consume food to grow hemp.
Cannabis on the other hand does not require near the space. Humans no matter who they are can only smoke or eat so much. So there’s a limited size market for it.
@SlicerDicer --
Do you have any citations?
Nothing will grow properly if it is not in the right conditions. Period.
Everything will grow properly if it is in the right conditions. Period.
When people talk about cannabis/hemp as a weed, it simply takes off under the right conditions.
When people talk about cannabis/hemp as being fickle, it simply isn't in the right conditions.
Citations are needed to decipher your claims.
https://stories.tamu.edu/news/2021/07/08/industrial-hemp-faces-challenges-in-texas/
The point is that nothing is easy and just a silver bullet.
@SlicerDicer --
"Industrial Hemp Faces Challenges In Texas:
A Texas A&M AgriLife Extension agronomist says scientists are still determining varieties and management practices suitable for the state's growing conditions."
The title makes my point.
Texas is NOT remotely similar to NATIVE, WILD growing cannabis/hemp.
You can literally spread poppies and hemp in places similar to Afghanistan and they will grow without any external help at all.
@SlicerDicer -- But you are overlooking the fact that there have been large hemp crops in the United States up through to the 1930's before Federal restrictions and eventual prohibition.
The fact that TEXAS can't grow hemp doesn't mean that other parts of the US can't.
As a former prohibition era grower, I can fully attest that growing with the heat and humidity in Texas, even indoors, is a lot harder than growing in Colorado with much milder temps and dry air (even indoors).
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@SlicerDicer -- LoL, I grew up in rural Texas among the cattle ranches of central Texas. If you know Texas, you know that it is different in each part. Sea to desert, to mountains to plains, to swamps to forests. Other than the tundra, is spans virtually all the climates.
I'm seriously questioning now if you're just a troll claiming to be a farmer or even an actual Texan. 
In fact I am, born in Lubbock but that’s besides the point.
Questioning if I’m a troll? Well I’ve put forward two articles one from Texas A&M they must not be Texans either? Or farmers at agriculture and mines? Thanks for playing.
@SlicerDicer -- LMAO...
Now I KNOW that it's all a big case of Dunning-Kruger.
I've actually grown cannabis and hemp in Colorado and Oklahoma. I'm asking for articles that could provide some backup to the claims you made and you send easily searchable stuff that I'm already aware of and with issues that have been solved. This is why I keep asking for NEW information.
Stick to your keyboard warrior shit and keep to your code.
They still haven’t solved it as you claim.
https://www.kbtx.com/2024/09/14/texas-am-research-students-trying-establish-more-sustainable-future-with-hemp/
@SlicerDicer -- Because I did not make any claims that needed backing up. 
@SlicerDicer @feld -- Lots of claims that it can't happen when there is a lot of evidence that it actually is happening.
You've also only cited Texas A&M articles.
Minnesota hemp farming is going strong.
Oklahoma hemp farming is going strong.
You keep saying that it isn't happening or that there are issues, but I'm seeing it actually happening.
What I'm seeing is TEXAS can't do it.
Based in university science.
Ever consider that the other universities are not doing it due to grants or the viability of success? After the massive failure in Lubbock I’d be highly skeptical of planting at all. 7000 acres failed, huge huge loss.
That said delta 8 is trash, if you want to get high smoke weed. Stop playing fake games of synthetic weed products. There is no substitute for cannabis.
@feld @SlicerDicer -- except that there is an actual hemp derived CBD market price that you can follow. It feeds directly into the Delta-8 THC manufacturing.
Just like you can use corn prices to decipher the health of a market and how "industrialized" it is, you can do the same with hemp.
There’s a larger portion of land that’s subject to these rules compared to not. That’s why there is a big push to solve this.
Stop ignoring the issues that impact over 60% of the crop land in USA.
Minnesota grows food, Lubbock grows cotton. It is a viable strategy if it can work to replace cotton with hemp. Is it really that hard? Do you really want to see mass production on food production acreage? I don’t think so.
@SlicerDicer -- Minnesota Hemp Harvest, 2023.
Just because Texas can't, doesn't mean that everywhere else hasn't figured it out.
If it is so hard, why has Hemp derived CBD exploded? With larger yields, driving the prices down?
@SlicerDicer -- Following your news article, there are no details other than to suggest that four years ago, they were still working out the right genetics to match up with the climate.
Considering they could have pulled several hemp strains out of Africa and the Middle East, I can't imagine this continuing to be an issue today.
If there are still issues, it may be because everyone is using corn sowing machines thinking it will work with hemp seed.
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@SlicerDicer --
I have done much research and experimentation with cannabis to know that it does not always react in the way you would expect.
Grafting experiments alone, showed me that the only way to make it viable was to create a special tool to "industrialize" an otherwise tedious process.
What I'm trying to express to you is that there isn't enough information provided to properly assess your claims and your citation was quite lacking too.
I did my own research. That's why I need more.
Dude just google it, this research is showing multitudes of issues from seeds sinking failing to germinate, failing transplants, early emergence of reproduction.
Stop saying you researched when you have no fucking clue what I’m talking about. Obviously you have a huge hole in your knowledge regarding hemp.
But weed bro, I’ve grown weed doesn’t cut it. My cannabis growth parameters I did in Washington State. That breaks all the rules you postulate.
This is the problem with the cannabis and hemp proponents. Realistic expectations are never a part of the conversation. It’s just hemp is fine it’s great and everything that is negative is wrong. Well sorry plants got positive and negative attributes. You can’t win them all.
@SlicerDicer -- LMAO... I'm really getting the vibe that you actually have no research and you're just grabbing the first links in your own google search and posting it.
And when I'm asking for newer information, you then cite an even older article.
Thanks for revealing yourself.
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/03/19/texas-senate-hemp-ban-thc-dan-patrick/
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/07/texas-hemp-drought-agriculture/
https://stories.tamu.edu/news/2022/11/18/researchers-aim-to-develop-hemp-tailored-to-texas-needs/
