Announcement! Signal is refreshing our board as we grow. We’re delighted to welcome Katherine Maher, Amba Kak, and Jay Sullivan as Signal’s new Directors. Learn more here: https://signalfoundation.org/
In 2020, Signal bootstrapped a small board, drawing on people close to Signal or directly involved. We are grateful to Moxie, Brian, and Meredith for working during this phase to grow and advise Signal. Meredith and Brian will remain on the Board for an interim period, before stepping off to focus on their leadership duties–Meredith as Signal’s President, and Brian staying on as Signal’s CEO, following a search.
After over a decade spent creating Signal, Moxie has departed to focus on new efforts. As the founder of Signal, the work he did and the organization he built are the reason Signal exists. We are infinitely grateful. He remains a friend and a core part of the Signal legacy
#usernames - when? You promised this for spring 2023.
Username with a phone number attached - yes.
Absolutely do not allow username only access to this app. One of the last platforms around not overridden with bots.
@signalapp Really sad i had to delete the App after so many years. It was great to have a single App for SMS and secure messages. But without that, there is no reason to use it anymore.
@signalapp can we get rid of the crypto coin nonsense now?
Meh. Can we sign up w/o a phone number yet? This app is dead to me until then.
@signalapp #Signal is becoming increasingly annoying and I won't be inviting more friends or donating in future because of that.
If that's due to #Moxie leaving then it's a big shame he's moved on after creating an effective solution to a serious problem.
It's a shame that legacy is being trashed so soon but I'll be looking for something that isn't centralised and which I can control, rather than a thing which thinks it should control me the way Meta and other sociopathic entities operate.
What is it about Signal that you find increasingly annoying?
@markstahl @markhughes @signalapp
I like signal and use it all the time. It nags me for my PIN occasionally, but I think that's about it. I don't massively mind the PIN nags as I do forget...
To me enshitification is where you degrade a product by lowering the quality or features somehow to increase profits. I'm not seeing that, nor profits!
A decentralised secure messaging app would be great. The nearest I've found is #deltaChat and the best thing is that you already have an account...
@artfulrobot @markstahl @markhughes @signalapp
DeltaChat is pretty good <3
@Faket yeah, although it creates a laughable metadata to data ratio. I thought UTF-8 was inefficient using a recent emoji (4 bytes ) but when that's the total content of a whole email...!
@artfulrobot @markstahl @markhughes @signalapp they did get rid of SMS integration after all.
I've had to switch from a useful app that does both, over to whatever Google shit is already installed (and is 100% reading my messages) and Signal on a clean 50 / 50 split for contacts
@kc @markstahl @markhughes @signalapp true, I did like the SMS feature
@kc @artfulrobot @markstahl @markhughes @signalapp SMS are legacy technology, they had to be dropped at some point, not even encrypted. I also understand the annoyance.
@drachma @artfulrobot @markhughes @signalapp @markstahl SMS a "legacy" technology ? What in the Tech Bro Valley nonsense are you speaking here ?
@kc @artfulrobot @markhughes @signalapp @markstahl Plaintext crap with can almost be intercepted by a toaster, only used in the USA and maybe 3 more countries.
I consider that obsolete, literally almost any other protocol is better.
@drachma @signalapp @kc @markstahl SMS is available in 100s of countries. It is crap, laughably insecure, etc. But it's important for several reasons. 1 inclusion & adoption: it had people using signal as their main messaging app bc they could message people who only have SMS, so signal app more convenient+useful. 2. We can't all afford data 24/7/365. I regularly have to SMS my kids! 3. It can often get through when data reception fails.
Not what signal is about, but it was v useful for people
@artfulrobot @signalapp @kc @markstahl Yeah, and I understand why this is annoying, you now need to look for and and install a separate app…
@drachma
@artfulrobot @signalapp @kc
For all its importance and history, WhatsApp carries more messages per day than SMS.
I realize that in the US, SMS is quite popular. But in the rest of the world, WhatsApp is significantly more used. If you ever tried MMS texting internationally, you'd understand what crap SMS is.
Source: https://www.sellcell.com/blog/how-many-text-messages-are-sent-a-day-2023-statistics/
Look into:
- @briar
- @session
- @simplex
- @threemaapp
- https://twin.me/
These are the best options I found when Signal made too many unforced errors for me to continue with them.
@signalapp Well, maybe you can take this opportunity to rethink some of your more questionable decisions, like using phone numbers as usernames, no reproducible builds (which would allow f-droid), dropping support for encrypted SMS, hiding the fingerprint verification, the built-in cryptocurrency bullshit, etc. All of these certainly don't help in appearing trustworthy.
@signalapp Thank you Moxie and all of you for the years of effort and the great software
@signalapp I've been using Signal (TextSecure) for over a decade, back when it was just a small project that Moxie started. Today, 99% of my conversations take place on Signal. A grand salute to Moxie Can't wait to see what he embarks on next.