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@lotharmucki @signalapp What do you mean?

@AGTMADCAT @signalapp
I got no crypto, no credit card, etc. How can I donate anyway?

@lotharmucki @signalapp Oh okay I see. If you're not in a position to have those things maybe you don't need to be donating right now? When you're secure enough to have some kind of credit card (or cheque card that works like one), you'll be in a position to pitch in. Until then, the rest of us have got you, don't worry about it. =)

@AGTMADCAT @signalapp
Very kind of you. But I'm unsure if this got still other reasons. For example illegal but still existent micro census, that block me the way to a credit card. So more payment options would be cool...

@kevinteljeur @signalapp
Walled gardens plus Apple's prices are why I never have owned and never will own any iOS devices.

My advice: run yours until it quits, jailbreak it and block Apple's updates to preserve the jailbreak, get a 3ed party browser that gets regular updates outside of Apple, and block javascript on all unknown webistes to make exploits far more difficult. Also block all ads unconditionally both to help rid the Internet of monetized trash sites and to protect your device from ads bearing malware.

When the iOS device run past Apple's support period, jailbroken, and disconnected from them is lost, destroyed, or dies of electromigration, get a non-Apple phone.

My advice: get something that can run one of the AOSP-based alternate OS's and be sure not to install Google Play or anything that depends on it.

@LukefromDC @signalapp This seems like a long game plan to export some chats and photos

@kevinteljeur @signalapp

Going forward, I am assuming you would be reinstalling Signal on a new device if "exporting chats" is the issue. Should be possible to simply install Signal on a new phone with the old phone number and your Signal PIN. At a minimum you get your groups back going forward.

The reason this doesn't give you back previous chat data is Signal doesn't store it, your device does. This is what's for security reasons as well as keeping Signal from being forced to spend vastly more on storage.

Note that there are probably more than enough differences between Android and iOS to make creating a program that can run on both at once and make them transfer internal data between each other difficult. That would be true even without Apple's interference. Note that moving existing data from Android to iOS is also not supported, this is probably why.

I have myself never used export of data directly from Signal. Any photos inside Signal you want back, select them for download. If they are still visible in Signal they should "download" from your local database to your pictures(or whatever Apple calls it) folder. Videos will"download" to Movies (or whatever Apple calls it_ assuming you had them set to download into Signal by default or had ever played them. I am assuming here that iOS doesn't also block downloading photos and videos into the phone from Signal. If it does, see below:

In a real pinch, chats could be "saved" by bringing them up one screen at a time and photographing them on an unlocked phone or a real camera. This works entirely without regard for any locking down-and is one reason you should never assume Signal can keep one malicious party in a group chat from saving everything. If they can't screenshot it they can still photograph it, and that might look like shit but it will be readable.

Photos it would be difficult to get enough quality this way and videos even worse, but might be better than nothing. I am assuming paid software is all the way off the table as it is for me.

If you can't jailbreak the phone well enough to allow exporting your data, I would advise an immediate end to the use of it for taking photos or using chat apps for anything you care about saving on grounds of it being "write-only memory."

@trystimuli @signalapp yikes, what a deficit!