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Finally got to try wayland on Pop!_OS 22.04

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social.ggbox.fr'This is the crisis moment': Political scientist says Trump crossed a crucial red line - GGG FederationThis is a followup of my previous post [https://lemmy.world/post/30948461] where I struggled to use wayland on 22.04 with nvidia. After a few more reading and tinkering, I found out that I needed to actively install the more recent nvidia-driver version 570 to have better wayland support, so that’s what I did. It was kind of janky as my screen just went black as I apt installed the driver, I had to reset the computer. The next boot, I was running no nvidia driver at all, so I re-did the apt install and it actually completed this time. After a second reboot, I was now running nvidia driver version 570.153.02, yay! With that out of the way, I proceeded to test those wayland sessions again, starting with KDE Plasma, but I found it is completely broken for me. Most mouse clicks don’t even register, and there is a several seconds lag on everything, it’s very weird and unusable. Now for gnome wayland. Well, to my surprise, this works about OK. The desktop is relatively smooth at 144hz. I can’t help but feel some extra latency on the mouse cursor but it’s still usable. So much so that I actually have been trying it out for a few days now, with mixed results I’m afraid. While it does work for the most part, it’s still not as good an experience as X11 for me, for a few reasons that I found out with daily use : - I use mumble extensively, and keyboard shortcuts don’t work on wayland (https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble/issues/5257 [https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble/issues/5257]). I had to set a global gnome shortcut that sends rcp commands to mumble to mute/unmute which was kind of a pain to figure out. I’ve also lost the “push-to-mute” feature in the process, which is my prefered way to operate the muting/unmuting. - I like RustDesk for remote desktop, but it doesn’t work well on wayland yet either. (it says it has experimental support, but I just get no image at all so it’s just broken for me) - The extra latency is not a lot but I do notice it. I’ve played some Rocket League, it’s decent, but not as snappy as on x11. - I’ve had a complete freeze of the desktop yesterday out of the blue, I’ve had to ssh in to loginctl session-kill my gnome session. This kind of thing never happens on X11, and I can’t have that happen too often during work. For these reasons, I’m back on x11 for now, but it was fun experimenting. I’ll give wayland another go later, with better application support I’m hoping.
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@nikatjef Thanks for the warning away from HP. I'm currently running #pop_os on a scavenged Dell from work and it's fairly good. I don't have any Intel Macs, but I do have the M1 Pro that I'm looking to replace. I'm a bigger fan of Debian-derived distros than Fedora so I haven't put to much thought into Asahi. I also have a Surface, but it's a bit long in the tooth for a first-class desktop Linux experience. I have thought about doing a CB++ or Bunsen Labs on it, though, as a backup. I've leaned to the Linux-first laptop providers more for the full open ecosystem (BIOS included), but I'm not averse to sourcing a nicer Lenovo or Dell. I am shifting a bit to the cloud, but nowhere near the Chromebook level and probably never will be that much.

Desktop performance on Pop!_OS 24.04 NVIDIA

social.ggbox.fr/post/1811678

social.ggbox.frDesktop performance on Pop!_OS 24.04 NVIDIA - GGG FederationFor some background, my system runs a ryzen7 3770x and RTX 4080 and has be working very nicely on Pop!_OS 22.04 LTS for work and games for more than a year now. I use KDE plasma (x11) and when the display it set at 144hz, the desktop experience is suuuper smooth, both in terms of cursor latency and how moving windows around feels. This is something I quickly got used to running a high refresh-rate display on Windows, and I never managed to have the same experience on a linux desktop before installing Pop on this PC. How smooth 22.04 felt on this system blew my mind and was the main reason I finally switched to linux for good at the time. Now back to today. After the subject of the next release got mentioned recently on this community, I wanted to five it a go. I tried running Pop!_OS 24.04 alpha 7 from a flash drive, featuring the new cosmic desktop and the wayland compositor. I’m sorry to report didn’t run that well. I do have the option the set the display to 144hz, and I do see an improvement switching from 60hz for sure, but the mouse cursor still has noticeable input lag and moving windows around is not very smooth. Not unusable to be fair, but definitely not as smooth as I’m used to on x11. I tried running some video content also, and VRR made the screen flicker during playback, which looked quite bad. Disabling VRR entirely made videos play OK though. Someone had better success running 24.04 on nvidia? Is it even supposed to be performing well already?
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I love using Linux, I have #Pop_OS on one laptop, #Kubuntu on my PC, and #grapheneos on my phone. I'm a newbie when it comes to this stuff. My background is in media production and media studies rather than computer science and software development. From what people tell me Linux has gone a long way with being easier to use. With that said, I still don't think I would recommend it to a friend who doesn't like dealing with computers and wants something as easy as possible.

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I've been enjoying working on Linux so much, and it's mostly easy to manage these days. I use #Pop_OS and it's lovely. But the process for making changes to encrypted drives is full of sharp edges. People will say "oh just use Clonezilla."

No. 😅

My advice if moving from Windows or MacOS to Linux and needing an encrypted drive, get a bigger one than you think you'll need so you don't have to mess with changing it out.

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@fell mission centre is excellent, I use it on #pop_os . It would be good to have it as an option when right-clicking the taskbar though instead of having to open it from the app launcher. Not sure how to set that up personally