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@ianb That's Apple’s entire point. They don't know. It's uncertain by design. EC proponents keep telling me it's a feature, not a bug, that unlike a rule-of-law nation like the US, it's the spirit, not letter, of the law that matters in the EU. So how is Apple supposed to glean the spirit of the DMA while under repeated threats of massive fines and even — laughably, admittedly — being “broken up”?

@gruber @ianb two questions:

1. Will Apple Intelligence come to all non EU countries e.g. U.K. , Australia etc.

2. Why is iPhone Mirroring and SharePlay excluded which has literally nothing to do with AI and is pretty closely if not based on Continuity which is already in Apple’s OS’s within the EU

@InterfaceEngineer @ianb You should read the entire DMA. It’s not about app stores specifically. It about forbidding vertical integration. SharePlay is exclusive to Apple, a proprietary protocol between Apple devices. The EC could easily rule that's illegal under the DMA. iPhone Mirroring only works with Apple's own desktop computers, Macs. That's almost certainly illegal under the DMA.

@gruber @ianb hey, so not sure what part of my post implied “AppStores” but everything you mention makes sense bar “SharePlay” itself - this been around since iOS 15.

Timeline wise, DMA legislation was formed in late 2022 & was made applicable in first half of 2023.

iOS 17 released later in 2023 literally has a way to initiate SharePlay easier.

In regard to DMA they let iMessage off early this year. Why is this different now? Atm it points to petulance 🤷

@InterfaceEngineer @ianb The DMA only went into effect in March. It's only going to slow down the rollout of future features and products.

sukh

@gruber @ianb guess we have different interpretations 😅

2 May 2023 the regulation came into “force”

6 September 2023, iOS AppStore & safari are “subjected” to it - apple.com/legal/dma/

All companies had until March 2024 to “comply”

Apple knew what they needed to do to be compliant for March for iOS, and all aspects of SharePlay was seemingly fine, up until now where Apple have decided to make a call to hold fire on this all of a sudden which is what I’m Q’in

Apple LegalLegal - European Digital Markets Act (DMA) - Apple