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@davidho this makes me think of the land we dedicate to (mostly storing) cars and trucks, when we could have amazing transportation

@tsyum @davidho do you see the big yellow square? what a waste of ground use, without accounting for all the other pollution that cattle produce...

@tsyum @davidho would love to see the breakdowns of spaces that are just for cars in urban housing, urban commercial, and rural housing. A ridiculous amount of space in this country is parking lots and driveways

@aeischeid @tsyum @davidho, like OP, I too think about this map a lot. And am always frustrated that #parking isn't it's own category.

Maybe @parkingreform has data for that.

@tsyum @davidho Yes! I'd like to see how much space in total streets and car park take. Did I miss something? I only find "rural highways". What about the massive use of urban space?

Some sort of forest management company? Not sure why they get plucked out specially. Maybe they’re just the largest?

@mdione @davidho

@mdione @davidho

Weyerhauser is a large timber/wood products company.

@mdione @davidho
timberland company which owns nearly 12,400,000 acres of timberlands in the U.S.

@davidho Fascinating, thanks for posting this

@davidho do I understand correctly that vegetables and cereals crops are all within the 'food we eat' area?

Looks like it; since livestock are separate maybe the label should be “other foods we eat”?

@adndebanane @davidho

@adndebanane @davidho i don't think i it's an actual map. just a visualisation of scale, as if we put all the land used for each purpose together

@tay @adndebanane @davidho agreed, misleading or at least distracting. Sometimes fanciness gets in the way.

@davidho
Shouldn't golf be located in Florida?

@davidho and I wonder how much that wildfires box has grown in the past ~6 years

@davidho Interesting!
At least it's not a Mercator projection.

@davidho to be fair, not all cow pasture land would be good crop land. cows can process grasses that make near-zero nutrition for us humans

but still, maybe we could cut back on the beef, eh

@joshg @davidho

The funny thing is that we could use the grass to make plant-based cheese! Like thosevegancowboys.com/

Those Vegan CowboysThose Vegan Cowboys - Margaret’s Cheese.Those Vegan Cowboys are developing new vegan food products with the same taste as traditional dairy products such as cheese. Our cowboys work in our NewMilkLab, within the grounds of Ghent University. Our researchers collaborate with scientists and players from the traditional dairy industry to develop milk proteins through microbial fermentation. In part, this is already common practice: nowadays most of all hard cheeses are produced with vegan microbial rennet. Now, Those Vegan Cowboys want to make the casein and other dairy proteins vegan too, by microbial production. Those Vegan Cowboys regard the development of a stainless steel cow as a move forward for the dairy industry which historically already evolved from hand milking, via the milking machine to the fully automatic milking robot of today. Chief Cowboy Jaap Korteweg: “In Ghent, a predecessor of the milking machine was already demonstrated at the agricultural exhibition in 1910. In 1992, a Dutchman, as first farmer in the world, milked all his cows with a milking robot. The modern dairy farm is no more than a factory where machines insert the grass and trucks take out the milk. The cow is an unnecessarily pitiful and inefficient part of this industrial process. The lowlands have a huge tradition of innovation in the dairy industry. For us, this project is no more than a logical next step.''

@errorbody @joshg @davidho Not efficiently. A high percentage of "grazing" land in the west is just rocks.

@davidho Random thought: If the population of the people running these categories were also distributed in this ratio, Trump would have won by a much larger margin.

@davidho Whoa. Wait, so do the urban housing/commercial sections include all the parking lots too?

@cosmog @davidho yeh. You guys go big on parking. It’s a tragedy for nature

@rpin42 @davidho Yep. For nature, for housing, for transportation, for climate, for local govt budgets, etc.

@david_chisnall @davidho
I was thinking they clearly need more barley. No wonder American beer sucks if it's that low on your priority list.

@davidho I couldn't find an equivalent for Canada, but I looked at some figures, and wow, is it different:

All agriculture (Pasture and cropland) comes to 6.2% of the land area only.

Nearly 40% of the country is forested, and of that, over 90% is in public hands.

The total urban area, large and small, is 0.27 %

And the Arctic and subartic covers over 40%.

The rest? Roads, bodies of water, etc etc.

We are a very unusual country.

Oh, and less than 11% of the land is in private hands. This percentage does not include land held under various Inuit, First Nation and Metis Land claim agreements and more. For instance, under 4 agreements, Inuit hold title to about 40% of Canada's land mass, including in Nunavut, the NWT and Labrador.

@louisffourie @davidho and a lot of it is fresh water that America is pressuring for.

@davidho No category for Indigenous land there?

@davidho that’s great, don’t believe I’ve seen that one before.

@davidho this is why I went vegan in the 2018. Imagine returning that land to nature. It would buy us time #extinction

@rustoleumlove @davidho
It says 1/3 of the vegetables and 3/4 of the fruit, so may be they need to add a new box and label it "food we _should_ eat"
cdfa.ca.gov/Statistics/
😂

www.cdfa.ca.govCDFA - Statistics

@rustoleumlove it's not a map specifically saying these things are predominantly in these areas. It's showing the proportional land use of all these things if they were superimposed on the US map. Some of them happen to be centered around areas where that land use type is predominant, but it's not supposed to be locationally accurate

@funes @rustoleumlove
you'd think that would be obvious, but given the answers here, a lot of space is also taken up by doofuses

@davidho that's a lot of skate parks

@davidho @talexb

Can’t help but notice that Florida and Texas are still worthless places I would not want to go…

@philsplace @davidho In Florida, I would go to the Kennedy Space Centre and the Keys. I've never been to Austin, TX, but it sounds like it would be a pretty cool place to visit.

Maybe in 2029.

@davidho Pained that "golf" is even a category here 🤦

@brad_b @davidho They located it at Myrtle Beach, though, cute.

@davidho I don't think this is actually all that accurate though? It categorizes the Rocky Mountains as cow pastures and doesn't recognize Iowa as the corn-void it is.

@davidho I love that they have a designated wildfires section

@davidho When people start talking about landfills (especially things like "Do you know how much waste we generate from discarded windmill blades? We're gonna run out of room!")... I think about maps like this.

@davidho If you spend even a little time in the High Plains you'll understand why we have so much cow pasture. There's literally nothing else you can do with it. They weren't entirely wrong when they called it the Great American Desert.

@davidho

it would be super interesting to see similar maps of mexico and canada alongside this!

@davidho @KatSteelwing
I think about this map a lot.

@davidho I live in corn syrup. I think. Might be wheat exports.