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I shit you not mate, an absolutely huge portion of the base that voted for Trump did so because they thought he was gonna make all the brown people disappear.

And might I add, a liberal establishment dead set on refusing to acknowledge that reality, is a big part of why this fascist movement has been so successful.

But the brown people aren't going to disappear, and neither are the queer people, and women aren't going back to being "the help" so reality is going to crash in VERY soon.

@paninid @AnarchoNinaWrites They’ll make a grand performance of deporting a bunch of folks, harm a bunch of people in the process, and spin it all as “mission accomplished,” and the cult will buy it. They are in Trump’s reality distortion field.

@ramsey @paninid That may well be Trump's plan, and it's a hard needle to thread so I have no idea if it'll work or not.

But Musk clearly didn't get the memo because he's out in the public discourse trying to realign what "woke" means to nazis and talking about "good immigration."

@AnarchoNinaWrites @paninid I doubt the majority of his base is even aware of the controversy. Even if they are, I see no reason they can’t rationalize this all as “legal immigration” vs. “illegal immigration.”

@AnarchoNinaWrites @paninid Sorry. It wasn’t my intent to offend. I’m in a very cynical place right now.

@ramsey I'm not a therapist and I don't have much use for "it's hopeless the nazis will win forever."

So I don't begrudge your cynicism, but I don't really have anything to add or any way to help you with that. I'm not offended, I'd just rather be having any conversation besides the one you seem keen on having.

@AnarchoNinaWrites @ramsey @paninid I still don't get how people can be ignorant enough to believe these two crazies.

@pwassonchat @ramsey @paninid fascism is at a base level about emotions, not reason. At some point fascist propagandists will even admit this, more or less saying it's about "emotional truth" and that when they lie it doesn't matter because they're speaking to a sentiment.

See JD Vance's response to being caught out on the eating pets story this past election cycle.

@paninid @AnarchoNinaWrites @pwassonchat @ramsey The problem is that fascism is also about force...so the question is when do they get sick of all these "laws" and such that get in their way (laws should only apply to the untermenschen, not them) and just strap on the armbands and start marching.

I don't pretend to know if or when that will happen, but I'm pretty confident that they are capable of doing so.

@AnarchoNinaWrites @ramsey @paninid sure, but you don't make a country great again just by believing very strongly in it. "Emotional truth" shouldn't stand to the slightest hint of critical thinking, meaning critical thinking is absent.

@pwassonchat @ramsey @paninid Yeah well I mean nazism never "makes a country great" again - it ends in dead nazis in ditches; every time.

But you sure as shit can seize a lotta power and wealth dealing in "emotional truth."

@AnarchoNinaWrites @ramsey @paninid can we skip the deportation of minorities and go straight to the dead nazis in ditches please? 😅

@pwassonchat @ramsey @paninid No, they make you fight them. That's how it works. There is no point where the nazis are going to look around and go "wait, I'm wrong and this is a disaster." They will double down and try to rule the ashpile.

The last time things got this out of hand, ending them (such as it happened) took tank divisions.

@pwassonchat @AnarchoNinaWrites @ramsey @paninid

Illegal immigration creates a class of undocumented uncitizens that can be treated as subhuman. This class is exploited ruthlessly.

You can see this doesn't narrow things down. 'Good' immigration probably means 'white & limited'