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As a #Linux user (NixOS + Sway) for some time now, I really like it. It's fast, it get's out of the way after the initial setup, it's super stable.
I cannot say the same for #GrapheneOS / #Android. Moving from #iOS, which was annoying and buggy in it's own way, i've discovered that apps are slower, buggier, and often have subpar functionality. The OS is schizophrenic about whether to show me things in English or Japanese. Takings screenshots, sending photos/videos is pain.
There are of course positives: Better custom keyboards, no LLM BS, more control over what runs in the background, NewPipe, split tunneling VPN, faster NFC payment.
But there are so many additional negatives:
No felica if the phone was purchased outside of Japan, app notifications not showing up unless you let Google services run with full BG access, Cannot copy and paste videos/photos in all apps, uses more data for some reason.
Most annoying of all: if I take a screenshot, the screenshot pop-up widget is in the way, and takes forever to dissappear. This in practice blocks editing the screenshot.
@Meowki When you take a screenshot, the pop-up that appears should have an edit option, you can then choose which app you'd like to edit your screenshot with. The moment you do, any screenshot pop-up has disappeared. You can download "Markup" from the GrapheneOS app store if you want a simple permissionless app to edit screenshots with. It's the same app that the stock Pixel OS uses.
@matchboxbananasynergy I have not installed markup, but there is already a stock app that let's me edit screenshots. The problem is that the screenshot 'dialog' takes forever to dissappear, in effect blocking interaction with the editing app. This is because it overlaps. No amount of trying to press outside, or even swiping it has any effect on the time it takes. I think it's more than 60 seconds.
@Meowki What is the app you're using to do this? Are you in the owner profile, or a secondary one?
I recommend installing Markup and seeing if that continues, because when I reproduced it, what happened is the following:
Take screenshot, pop-up appears, tap edit, asks me which app to use, tap Markup, pop-up disappears and lets me edit the screenshot with no delays.
@matchboxbananasynergy I am using the stock gallery. The crop button ends up below the pop-up. And if you try to press is it seems to register it as a tap on the pop-up up itself, which makes it stay longer. But it's no longer stuck forever like before, so it may have been fixed in an update.
>No felica if the phone was purchased outside of Japan
That unfortunately has to do with license deals with Sony, not much that we can do about that on our end without risking getting sued.
>app notifications not showing up unless you let Google services run with full BG access
Google Play on GrapheneOS is a regular sandboxed app. Apple handles notification through their own system as well, and unlike on Android, you don't really have an alternative to that.
>Cannot copy and paste videos/photos in all apps
Could you explain what you mean by that?
@matchboxbananasynergy I acknowledge the Felica issue and notifications to be outside the scope of GrapheneOS. I wish I could just individually purchase a license. My trust regarding privacy is even lower for Google than Apple, so the fact that apps require their services is a big issue for me, and one that makes me wish there was more regulation on this. Hopefully DSA will somewhat fix this.
@matchboxbananasynergy >Cannot copy and paste videos/photos in all apps
Because I don't give apps full access to photos/videos I have to all the time redefine access scopes. On iOS i would avoid this nuisance by long-tapping content and then selecting 'copy'. Finally I would paste this in whatever app I wanted it in. Eg. a messaging app to send the content to a friend. On Android/Graphene this option only exists in some apps. No option to copy to clipboard in the share menu either.
@matchboxbananasynergy One very big reason why I wanted to move away from iOS is that the option to copy videos to clipboard was removed. Likely because they added a 'Copy iCloud link', and want people to use this.
@Meowki The way I would typically do this is using the "share" option. e.g. from my gallery or files app to Signal or another messaging app.
@matchboxbananasynergy The share button works for some apps, but you have to rely on the app to have a good menu for this. I ended up sending photos in a public discord chat because discord bugged out on it's share menu.
>i've discovered that apps are slower, buggier, and often have subpar functionality.
It's unfortunately true that a lot of companies allocate significantly less resources to their Android apps, as opposed to their iOS apps, especially for American companies. Not much that we can do about that on our end.
>The OS is schizophrenic about whether to show me things in English or Japanese.
I think you might be referring to an upstream bug that was recently introduced in AOSP. Hopefully Google will fix it soon.
>Takings screenshots, sending photos/videos is pain.
Could you elaborate on what your issues with that has been? I assume it has more to do with being more accustomed to iOS rather than Android, but maybe I can help.
@matchboxbananasynergy I'd like to start out with saying thank you for reaching out, and that I would not have even considered trying Android if not for the work the GrapheneOS has done.
My criticism is from an overall user perspective, of someone who daily drives open source on the desktop. It's not aimed specifically at GrapheneOS, and I acknowledge that many of the issues stem from other places.