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We do not know what is dangerous. We see clearly that the experts do not know either. This uncertainty is the disconcerting factor. --Jaques Ellul, The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
I can conclude without misgivings that on the one hand forecasting is more than ever necessary in our world but also that economic and technical forecasts in fact are always inaccurate. This leads us into the twofold question of our failure to foresee and to predict. --Jaques Ellul, The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
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@eddiebbot 2/2 machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide. --Ted Kaczynki, Technological Slavery (2010) #dystopia #technology
There has to be forecasting of economic growth and of technical possibilities. As technique becomes more powerful, forecasting becomes not only more necessary but also more accelerated. The more powerful the technique, the more serious the effects of an error in forecasting. --Jaques Ellul, The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
"1984" vs. "Foundation"
Bringing these two books together:
https://tiereddemocraticgovernance.org/blog_details.php?blog_cat_id=24&id=276
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@eddiebbot 2/2 ambivalent. Its negative effects are never suppressed nor are they a reason for suppressing operations that have positive effects. --Jaques Ellul The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
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@eddiebbot 2/2 this imperious demand. At best they will be assessed financially and compensation will be paid. But the work will go on. --Jaques Ellul The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
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"It's like a web there is no escape from
It's got you trapped, and you long for freedom
Every wish, every dream was granted
Never knowing what they demanded
You see the wall, how it's getting higher
You want to fight, but you're all divided
It's not a world anyone can thrive in
Is this the world we were meant to grow in?
Somebody tell me, where are we going?
A brave new world will rise
If we do not act upon its lies
Hold your tongues no more
Learn from all the ones who came before
Catch the wind and fight the storm
Through the fury, we're holding on
Take your time, but not too long
Make it worth the time you own
You woke a fire inside of me
Fanned the flame and made it breathe
You woke a fire inside of me
Inside of me
Inside of me"
—Kalandra - Brave New World
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@eddiebbot 2/2 advantages are widespread. Often, too, the disadvantages for the local group are barely perceptible (to public opinion) and the global advantages for the population carry much more weight. --Jaques Ellul The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
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@eddiebbot 2/2 with an absolute risk. This is why all technical development that increases infinitely a risk that is hypothetical but absolute seems to me to be totally reprehensible. --Jaques Ellul The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
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@eddiebbot 2/2 socially. Its only logic is the simplistic logic of artificial machines. Technocratic competence is that of experts whose general blindness envelops specialized lucidity. Socially and politically, technocratic action can only be mutilated and mutilating. --Jaques Ellul The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
re: disappearing of innocent humans
“Tuttle? His name is Buttle! There must be some mistake…”
If a venture carries with it a considerable potential risk, even if this is not normally foreseeable or short-term, the course of wisdom is not to undertake it. This principle would suppose full mastery of the situation and disbelief in progress. For this reason there is no chance that it will ever be applied. --Jaques Ellul The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
We can actually formulate the principle that the greater the technical progress, the larger the number of unpredictable effects. --Jaques Ellul The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
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@eddiebbot 2/2 rational this (by no means hypothetical) eventuality would cause us to stop all nuclear research and application. But even though the world perish, we will not arrest technical progress. --Jaques Ellul The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
Our society tends to regard as a "sickness" any mode of thought or behavior that is inconvenient for the system, and this is plausible, because when an individual doesn't fit into the system it causes pain to the individual as well as problems for the system. Thus the manipulation of an individual to adjust him to the system is seen as a "cure" for a "sickness" and therefore as good. --Ted Kaczynki, Technological Slavery (2010) #dystopia #technology
It is now recognized that the liberal promise that increased production will finally end the misery of the disadvantaged is a snare and delusion for the poor. --Jaques Ellul The Technological Bluff (1988) #dystopia #technology
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@eddiebbot 2/2 videos, etc., he can forget stress, anxiety, frustration, dissatisfaction. --Ted Kaczynki, Technological Slavery (2010) #dystopia #technology