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RanaldClouston<p>I am going to make an attempt to <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/blog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>blog</span></a> a bit again, reading and writing about papers and books, old and new, that are cited by recent work in my area. This week, we look at a <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/proofTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proofTheory</span></a> <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/logic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>logic</span></a> textbook. <a href="https://blogs.fediscience.org/the-updated-scholar/2025/08/08/discussing-basic-proof-theory/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">blogs.fediscience.org/the-upda</span><span class="invisible">ted-scholar/2025/08/08/discussing-basic-proof-theory/</span></a></p>
RanaldClouston<p><a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/proofTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>proofTheory</span></a> / simple <a href="https://fediscience.org/tags/typeTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>typeTheory</span></a> question: I'm reading Troelstra &amp; Schwichtenberg's 'Basic Proof Theory' and they discuss 'simplification contractions' on natural deductions, which cover cases where an auxiliary premise of an elimination rule does not use the local variable it is given.</p><p>e.g.if we have an or-elimination 'case t:A ∨ B of x₁.t₁; x₂.t₂', but xᵢ is not free in tᵢ for either i = 1 or 2, then we may reduce to tᵢ.</p><p>Is this a style of reduction that is ever seen in simple type theory or implemented in languages? What are the implications of including it? I'm not used to seeing anything (in the propositional fragment) except beta, eta, and commuting conversions.</p>
José A. Alonso<p>Readings shared July 12, 2025. <a href="https://jaalonso.github.io/vestigium/posts/2025/07/13-readings_shared_07-12-25" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">jaalonso.github.io/vestigium/p</span><span class="invisible">osts/2025/07/13-readings_shared_07-12-25</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/ASP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ASP</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/ATP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ATP</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/CLP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CLP</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/CategoryTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CategoryTheory</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/CoqProver" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>CoqProver</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Emacs</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/FunctionalProgramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FunctionalProgramming</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Haskell" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Haskell</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/ITP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ITP</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/IsabelleHOL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IsabelleHOL</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/LLMs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LLMs</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/LeanProver" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LeanProver</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Logic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Logic</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/LogicProgramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LogicProgramming</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Math" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Math</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Prolog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Prolog</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/ProofTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProofTheory</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Prover9" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Prover9</span></a></p>
José A. Alonso<p>Proof theory and logic programming: Computation as proof search. ~ Dale Miller. <a href="https://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/Labo/Dale.Miller/ptlp/ptlp-2025-06-27.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">lix.polytechnique.fr/Labo/Dale</span><span class="invisible">.Miller/ptlp/ptlp-2025-06-27.pdf</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/Logic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Logic</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/ProofTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProofTheory</span></a> <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/tags/LogicProgramming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>LogicProgramming</span></a></p>
Samiro Discher<p>New: pmGenerator, since version 1.2.2, can<br>- compress Hilbert-style proofs via exhaustive search on user-provided proof data<br>- convert Fitch-style natural deduction proofs into any sufficiently explored Hilbert system</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Logic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Logic</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HilbertSystems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HilbertSystems</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/NaturalDeduction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NaturalDeduction</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FormalMethods" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>FormalMethods</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ProofTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProofTheory</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Mathematics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Mathematics</span></a></p><p><a href="https://github.com/xamidi/pmGenerator/releases/tag/1.2.2" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/xamidi/pmGenerator/</span><span class="invisible">releases/tag/1.2.2</span></a></p>
Greg Restall<p>I’m in Amsterdam, about to give a talk about proof theory for modal predicate logic at the ILLC, the home base of the modal industrial complex. I have no idea how this is going to go over, but it should be a fun ride, however it turns out.</p><p><a href="https://consequently.org/presentation/2025/mlce-illc/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">consequently.org/presentation/</span><span class="invisible">2025/mlce-illc/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/prooftheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>prooftheory</span></a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/modalLogic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>modalLogic</span></a></p>
Greg Restall<p>This Thursday, I’ll be down in London giving a talk about defining rules for quantifiers and identity, at the PPLV group in Computer Science at UCL. If you happen to be in the area, and are interested in proof theory, semantics and hints of metaphysics, I’d love to see you there.</p><p><a href="https://consequently.org/presentation/2025/drqi-pplv-ucl/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">consequently.org/presentation/</span><span class="invisible">2025/drqi-pplv-ucl/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/prooftheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>prooftheory</span></a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/logic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>logic</span></a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/semantics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>semantics</span></a></p>
Greg Restall<p>I'm glad to have space to get to writing, and the first writing project of my sabbatical has reached first-draft stage. If you're interested in modal logic, proof theory, and the metaphysics of contingent existence, have I got the paper for you!</p><p><a href="https://consequently.org/writing/mlce-ge2/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">consequently.org/writing/mlce-</span><span class="invisible">ge2/</span></a></p><p>I've got to say, I think the hypersequent calculus in this paper is pretty neat.</p><p><a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/ProofTheory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ProofTheory</span></a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/ModalLogic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ModalLogic</span></a> <a href="https://hcommons.social/tags/Metaphysics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Metaphysics</span></a></p>
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(The proof with alternatives does have a bit of a round-about feel, with having to store the conclusion as an alternative twice to then retrieve both in one go. This gives you the effect of contraction in conclusion position, which is required because the natural deduction introduction rule for disjunction is additive, while the elimination rule is multiplicative. In this format, your only device for contraction in conclusion position is to hoist the conclusion into the assumption context (as an alternative, under the slash) and to then retrieve two or more copies of that assumption back as a conclusion.)

This morning, one of my hardworking intermediate logic students (prepping for her exam next week), came to me with a query about how to prove the constructively invalid quantifier negation inference (from ∀x(A(x)∨B(x)) to ∀xA(x)∨∃xB(x)) in natural deduction with Double Negation Elimination.

It was natural that she would struggle with this exercise, since any proof of this (in that natural deduction framework at least), requires a quite bit of fancy footwork.

After we worked through that, I wondered whether the proof is much simpler in classical natural deduction with alternatives (basically the λμ calculus). If you help yourself to the derivable (and simpler to work with) ∨E* variant rule, it turns out that the proof shrinks from 14 steps to 10, and it seems much more direct.

I think my paper on Dummett, proof assistants and pluralism has shaped up rather nicely, and it will be good to see it out in the Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society in a few months’ time. You can read the preprint now.

Thanks to everyone who gave me feedback on earlier drafts, and discussed these issues along the way.

There's more to be done, but I hope to have clarified some issues around how we can think about the relationship between constructive and classical reasoning, and how philosophers might engage with what is going on in the application of dependent type theory in proof assistants, programming language design, and the formalisation and mechanisation of reasoning.

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@loopspace @tao For me, the most natural approach would be in the context of formal logic. Start with the set of all proofs for a given statement (in a specified formal system, with some axioms given, for example) and then introduce some transformations that transform a proof into an equivalent one. Changing the order of the proof steps is a possible transformation, and the morst trivial one. Then these transformations define an equivalence relation, and voilà!, you have a concept for proof equivalence.

The challenges here are of course (1) to find a definition that is meaningful in the real life of mathematicians, and (2) to prove interesting things with these concepts. One would try to define invariants, for example.

I have done nothing concrete in this direction and do not know whether anyone else has, but maybe there is something.

"A major function [of deductive #logic is in] assessing exactly what is involved in asserting some set of propositions. […] By omitting some premiss without which the deduction of some conclusion is not valid, it misrepresents the premiss from which this conclusion is obtained, and hence responsibility for the conclusion. To agree to accept partial responsibility as good enough here is like agreeing to say that somebody was responsible for the dinner when he peeled potatoes and the cook did the rest. The first statement cannot be accepted as an elliptical, but allowable, way of making the second statement. And similarly suppression [of some premiss] enables us to obtain as causally responsible a partially sufficient rather than a fully sufficient causal condition."

Valerie Plumwood in Australasian Journal of Logic, 2023: ojs.victoria.ac.nz/ajl/issue/v v @rrrichardzach

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