What are people doing for home server UPS in 2025?
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lemmy.todayWhat are people doing for home server UPS in 2025? - Lemmy TodayI’m kind of curious as to what people these days are doing on a UPS
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply] front, to keep
systems running through power outages and provide a clean shutdown prior to
batteries becoming exhausted. It used to be common to see UPS systems sold to
give desktop computer systems time to shut down cleanly.
The UPS market seems pretty stale to me. There have been changes over the past
twenty years or so that I’d guess have caused some of that: * A move to
filesystems structured so as to not risk corruption at the filesystem level from
power loss at an arbitrary time. * Many people using laptops. Doesn’t change the
situation much for servers, but I think that it reduces volume of the market
that might want some kind of UPS. I had expected that, with the drop in cost of
lithium batteries and rise in tremendous rise in use of large batteries, that
one would see new lithium-ion UPS units with large capacity. But in practice,
that doesn’t seem to be the case. UPS units are still around, but basically only
provide a small amount of power, enough time to shut down. They aren’t normally
geared up to keep systems running for hours. There are lithium battery-based
“home power backup” systems that provide loads of storage and automatic
switching over to battery power if the mains power drops. However, these have
some serious drawbacks that limit their use in a UPS role: * Some of these
aren’t rated to switch over within a sharply-bounded amount of time, to avoid
risk of momentary power interruption. For many devices, a momentary power
interruption isn’t a huge deal, but for computers, it matters. I understand that
on the order of 10 ms
[https://www.storagereview.com/review/portable-power-stations-actually-work-pretty-well-as-a-ups]
is expected for reliable UPS use, to keep computer power supplies happy. * One
thing that one would like from a UPS is a clean shutdown prior to the battery
becoming exhausted. For that to be done, the UPS needs to report its current
charge capacity, so that software on the system can predict remaining runtime
before exhaustion. Network UPS Tools [https://networkupstools.org/] is a
widely-used Linux UPS-interfacing software package that does this shutdown. But
looking at its hardware support grid, there isn’t support for these power
stations, and I suspect that if there were reasonable charge-level reporting
support anywhere, there would be. * USB has device classes that permits
charge-level reporting, and looking at the USB spec, that appears to be true of
USB PD. I have wireless headphones, for example, that make use of this. However,
as best I can tell from looking through the kernel source, Linux doesn’t provide
a way to treat these as a power_supply-class device, the way laptops have a
BAT0, BAT1, etc, which would let the OS provide a clean shutdown itself when the
time-remaining drops to a critical level. And even though power stations
typically provide USB charging, I have not been able to find any that actually
report their charge level via that USB in such a fashion. I can think of at
least three viable ways to do this: * I’m sure that there are people who have
rigged up some kind of ad hoc system off a full-blown grid-tie power system,
with separate batteries, inverter, charge controller, etc. In that case, all one
needs is a voltmeter linked to the batteries prior to the voltage-regulation
stuff, knowing what battery type is involved, and one could give a capacity
estimate. Doing this ad hoc is going to have some drawbacks that I’d hope that a
vendor-provided battery management system wouldn’t, like having to calibrate to
one’s batteries and not automatically dealing with battery aging. * Simply run a
UPS and a “big-battery” lithium backup power station. Plug the UPS into the
power station and the computer into the UPS. The UPS provides the rapid
changeover time and provides the computer with a warning prior to shutdown. This
uses systems that should work out-of-box, but doesn’t really seem ideal to me in
that one’s buying extra hardware and doesn’t have a unified view of time
remaining on the battery – the computer thinks that everything’s normal until
the power station is drained and the UPS kicks on. * Some people use old laptops
as servers. For those, you can already use the OS’s built-in power management to
deal with laptop batteries. If you have a power station extending the runtime,
great, though in that case, you run into the same “you don’t have a unified view
of the laptop and power station battery charge” situation. I’m pretty sure that
people out there doing self-hosted servers have thought about this, and I’m
curious as to what people out there are doing in terms of the options out there.
Do you just not worry about it, given the fact that corruption at a filesystem
level isn’t such a big deal? Do you just use a UPS for a handful of minutes
prior to a clean shutdown, and not try to keep your systems running through
longer power outages? I also don’t know how resillient home Internet connections
are in the presence of power outages, whether typical cable, fiber, and DSL
connections remain functional from the telco’s standpoint. I know that cell
towers typically have some sort of generator setup, as I’ve read about those in
the past, and believe that I’ve read that they typically can run for at least
several days without power even without technicians driving out. I don’t know to
what degree that is also true of wired communications hardware. I’m curious as
to what the experiences of people who have put their server and network hardware
on some form of backup power is. If you keep your on-premises hardware powered,
have you retained Internet connectivity in power outages that you’ve
experienced?