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@hosford42
I absolutely agree that the root of the problem is an economic one, and things must be dealt with there in order to be properly fixed. However I don't think that we can reform the market system in a way that will prevent this from happening again. I think that as long as we use a money based system, people will find ways to accumulate it, as well as use it to subvert any laws we enact to prevent it. That's how we got here in the first place. It would only be making things a little better for a little while.

But even if we could do that, our troubles are deeper than that. Because we have long been capable of producing a much higher standard of living for everyone, but continuing to use a scarcity-based economic system, not only have we been simply keeping most people poorer than they need to be, but we have been wasting massive amounts of resources in doing so, resulting in the environmental degradation we are seeing the results of everywhere. We have to ditch the outdated system that is creating artificial scarcity by its very nature and employ a modern, scientific system that was designed for this very problem, that has both sustainability and efficiency built right in. Howard Scott's Technocracy is such a system: technate.org/tiki-index.php?pa
The result would be no more environmental degradation (by whatever countries use this anyway), no rich or poor classes, a much higher standard of living for everyone, very little work needed to produce that standard of living, and much more.
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@JeremyMallin
Yes, that is certainly what we deserve. However, while it may be theoretically possible to make every such entity non-profit, as long as money exists there will always be the temptation to find ways to circumvent and eventually change the laws to allow accumulation of profit again. We've already seen this happen. The Soviet Union made profit illegal, and backed it up with a brutal dictatorship, and it still succumbed to this temptation, changing the laws bit by bit until it became the kleptocracy it is now.

What is needed is to change the rules of the game entirely, from a method of exchange to one of distribution. That would make accumulation of wealth require physical effort, and thus greatly reduce how much can be done. Combine that with a post-scarcity society (yes, we can do that today, and have been able to for nearly a century now), and the motivation to do this virtually disappears.

Fortunately, we have such a system already developed, one that takes into consideration all the problems one might think of having read just what I've written above: technate.org/tiki-index.php?pa
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@jessta @MorpheusB @MrLee
This sounds more like you're describing Howard Scott's Technocracy. In that system, the efficiency of all production and services is maximized in order to give everyone the highest standard of living possible, while as the same time freeing them from any work that they don't want to do by breaking the link between labor and that standard of living. So just like you said, everyone gets the best possible housing, health care, education, etc., because we are more than capable of it, and have been for a while now.
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@ubi4me
Your first paragraph basically describes Howard Scott's Technocracy, which we could have had for almost a century now. Instead, we have a society that is using technology in almost all the wrong ways, like AI (as you show here). But this idea can't happen until enough people know about it (that really is the only thing holding us back), so until then, UBI would be a big help to almost everybody until we can get that going.

Plus I think that it would help demonstrate the idea that investing in people beforehand without expecting anything in return actually gives a greater "return on investment" (in the general sense, not just profits) than making them have to pay for the things they need to be able to thrive. This idea is integral to Technocracy.
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